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Unless they have a screen that can rival the Retina, this is dead on arrival.

by gfosco 14y ago

dman 14y ago
What if its for 50 bucks and subsidized via ads? Or if it allows you to play Xbox games remotely over the internet? Or if it has great handwriting recognition? Or if you can program on it using any language you want?
- gfosco 14y ago
  50 bucks and subsidized via ads? Then Microsoft loses an epic fortune and only has users without money. play Xbox games remotely over the internet? It's just unfeasible. Control schemes on a tablet do not translate to console games. great handwriting recognition? Then it's going to require a stylus, and many won't care. Not a good enough feature... The world has largely moved on from this desire. program on it using any language you want? Lol! We're talking about Microsoft here! It's going to be a WinRT walled garden!
  - cryptoz 14y ago
    You're missing the point that there isn't a single point that will cause a tablet to fail in the market. If it doesn't have a great screen, most people won't care (AT ALL). Those who do care won't buy it. If it doesn't have a great screen, costs a fortune, has no features and no apps, then it's DOA. Pointing to a single feature and saying "this is the only thing the market cares about" is silly and rarely a useful metric to look at.
    - gfosco 14y ago
      The dominating feature of a tablet is the screen. It's the largest component of the design, and has the most impact on the experience. If there was a single point of failure, that's the one to bet on. Android, likewise, has not been able to compete in the tablet market... even less so after the Retina iPad. Apple has, unfortunately, set a very high mark for competition. I had just purchased an Asus eeePad Transformer Prime, the top of the line Android tablet, right before the Retina iPad... I immediately sold it, for a loss, and switched.
      - cryptoz 14y ago
        > The dominating feature of a tablet is the screen. It's the largest component of the design, and has the most impact on the experience. If there was a single point of failure, that's the one to bet on. I disagree with all my heart, soul, brain and everything in the universe. The dominating feature of a tablet is the software. > Android, likewise, has not been able to compete in the tablet market.. [citation needed]. Android has been slow to pick up but is slowly commanding more and more of the market. Android started from behind on tablets but is working to catch up; i.e., they're competing. > Apple has, unfortunately, set a very high mark for competition. I would consider that fortunate, not unfortunate. When is a high bar for competition a bad thing?! > I had just purchased an Asus eeePad Transformer Prime, the top of the line Android tablet, right before the Retina iPad... I immediately sold it, for a loss, and switched. That's fine. I find the screen to be the least important part of a tablet. I'd take 800x600 running Android any day over a high res iPad. You and I are different people with different preferences. The market is made up of many people like us, and the tablets that fit the most of us the best will do the best in the market. You cannot take your personal preference and impose it on the market. You will be wrong.
        gfosco 14y ago
        When your phone has 1280x720 native resolution, it's a little hard to accept the same resolution on a tablet.
- Roboprog 14y ago
  That's probably not far from the approach they will take. And it will be a cluttered clusterbomb of a mongrel, nowhere near as useful as a Kindle or a Nook (or an iPad). But I'm only basing that on about 27 years of using MS's products. (whether I want to or not) The sad thing is, it will be cheaper than an iPad, and it will have a long list of features, and it will be pitched to VIPs in various organizations, as well as poorer customers, who aren't sure what they want to do, but see the list of things and the price. It will suck, and it will eat up many times its cost difference in lost productivity, but it will probably get the biggest market share. Sob.
recoiledsnake 14y ago
Yes, they will. http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-29-43-metablogapi/8468.Scaling_2D002D002D00_Common_2D00_Sizes_5F00_5E732919.jpg http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communit... From: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-different-screens.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-dif...

Unless they have a screen that can rival the Retina, this is dead on arrival.

by gfosco 14y ago

Unless they have a screen that can rival the Retina, this is dead on arrival.

dman 14y ago

What if its for 50 bucks and subsidized via ads? Or if it allows you to play Xbox games remotely over the internet? Or if it has great handwriting recognition? Or if you can program on it using any language you want?

gfosco 14y ago
50 bucks and subsidized via ads? Then Microsoft loses an epic fortune and only has users without money. play Xbox games remotely over the internet? It's just unfeasible. Control schemes on a tablet do not translate to console games. great handwriting recognition? Then it's going to require a stylus, and many won't care. Not a good enough feature... The world has largely moved on from this desire. program on it using any language you want? Lol! We're talking about Microsoft here! It's going to be a WinRT walled garden!
- cryptoz 14y ago
  You're missing the point that there isn't a single point that will cause a tablet to fail in the market. If it doesn't have a great screen, most people won't care (AT ALL). Those who do care won't buy it. If it doesn't have a great screen, costs a fortune, has no features and no apps, then it's DOA. Pointing to a single feature and saying "this is the only thing the market cares about" is silly and rarely a useful metric to look at.
  - gfosco 14y ago
    The dominating feature of a tablet is the screen. It's the largest component of the design, and has the most impact on the experience. If there was a single point of failure, that's the one to bet on. Android, likewise, has not been able to compete in the tablet market... even less so after the Retina iPad. Apple has, unfortunately, set a very high mark for competition. I had just purchased an Asus eeePad Transformer Prime, the top of the line Android tablet, right before the Retina iPad... I immediately sold it, for a loss, and switched.
    - cryptoz 14y ago
      > The dominating feature of a tablet is the screen. It's the largest component of the design, and has the most impact on the experience. If there was a single point of failure, that's the one to bet on. I disagree with all my heart, soul, brain and everything in the universe. The dominating feature of a tablet is the software. > Android, likewise, has not been able to compete in the tablet market.. [citation needed]. Android has been slow to pick up but is slowly commanding more and more of the market. Android started from behind on tablets but is working to catch up; i.e., they're competing. > Apple has, unfortunately, set a very high mark for competition. I would consider that fortunate, not unfortunate. When is a high bar for competition a bad thing?! > I had just purchased an Asus eeePad Transformer Prime, the top of the line Android tablet, right before the Retina iPad... I immediately sold it, for a loss, and switched. That's fine. I find the screen to be the least important part of a tablet. I'd take 800x600 running Android any day over a high res iPad. You and I are different people with different preferences. The market is made up of many people like us, and the tablets that fit the most of us the best will do the best in the market. You cannot take your personal preference and impose it on the market. You will be wrong.
      - gfosco 14y ago
        When your phone has 1280x720 native resolution, it's a little hard to accept the same resolution on a tablet.
Roboprog 14y ago
That's probably not far from the approach they will take. And it will be a cluttered clusterbomb of a mongrel, nowhere near as useful as a Kindle or a Nook (or an iPad). But I'm only basing that on about 27 years of using MS's products. (whether I want to or not) The sad thing is, it will be cheaper than an iPad, and it will have a long list of features, and it will be pitched to VIPs in various organizations, as well as poorer customers, who aren't sure what they want to do, but see the list of things and the price. It will suck, and it will eat up many times its cost difference in lost productivity, but it will probably get the biggest market share. Sob.

recoiledsnake 14y ago

Yes, they will. http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-29-43-metablogapi/8468.Scaling_2D002D002D00_Common_2D00_Sizes_5F00_5E732919.jpg http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communit... From: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-different-screens.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-dif...