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Lenovo makes a Intel i7 version also called the Duet with the same type of detachable keyboard.

ofalkaed 2y ago
Made, past tense, been a year or two since you could get one of those. The Duet 7i came with a bluetooth keyboard that sort of attached (don't believe they folded either and just had a case which held both tablet and keyboard but don't remember) and had terrible battery life unless you kept the screen brightness and CPU usage very low. Those were also 13" and $700 more than the Duet 3, that series was a failure for many reasons. There was a Celeron version of the current Snapdragon Duets but also had rather poor battery life and I don't think they ever got the ram upgrade that the Snapdragons got. HP had one as well but is also no more. There is a reason the Snapdragon models have succeeded and stayed in production while the Intel ones have failed, they don't try and be both a full laptop and a full tablet, they just do both well enough in a very convenient package; it is small enough that it is never an issue take it with you, the keyboard is the cover and not much thicker than the standard folio tablet cover so always with you, cheap enough that you don't worry about accidents or theft, and has the battery life so you don't need to worry about charge. In a few years when it no longer gets updates it will still safely do 95% of what I use it for and I can always have someone with the skills and tools install linux on it, or use the linux dev environment. But I probably will just disconnect it from my accounts and be perfectly happy with it only doing 95% of what I currently use it for, assuming nothing happens to it before then.
- wvenable 2y ago
  You don't have to get one from Lenovo. These types of form factors (and many more) are available as full PCs in every possible configuration. There's never any reason to limit yourself to a Chromebook.
  - ofalkaed 2y ago
    I did not limit myself to a Chromebook or Lenovo, I went with the tool which best suited the tasks which I was buying it for, best happened to be a Chromebook.
    - wvenable 2y ago
      There is no task for which a Chromebook is best suited. Even web browsing is better on a real computer; being unable to run the real AdBlock Plus soon is going be unacceptable. If Chromebooks aren't overpriced then they are underpowered.
      - fragmede 2y ago
        Basing decisions on future software (mis)features that don't currently exist isn't a good way to approach the problem, regardless of where the software is coming from. Which is to say, there are plenty of places where ChromeOS is the appropriate OS. Because of the verified boot and sandbox, I'd much rather access my bank's website on a Chromebook over a laptop with desktop Linux/MacOS/Windows.
        wvenable 2y ago
        Given you have no control over said announced and to be released features is a perfectly valid way to approach the problem. Limiting yourself to an underpowered overpriced toy computer created by advertising company that plans to remove features to block ads because you're worried about effectively non-existent security issues no way to live. You'd be better of with an iPad.
        nolist_policy 2y ago
        iPads are great hardware but too limited. You can't really do programming on a standalone iPad. On a Chromebook? Install anything you like in the Linux VM: VS Code, Android Studio, ...
        wvenable 2y ago
        You could just install anything you like on any other device.. it doesn't have to be a Chromebook.
      - ofalkaed 2y ago

Made, past tense, been a year or two since you could get one of those. The Duet 7i came with a bluetooth keyboard that sort of attached (don't believe they folded either and just had a case which held both tablet and keyboard but don't remember) and had terrible battery life unless you kept the screen brightness and CPU usage very low. Those were also 13" and $700 more than the Duet 3, that series was a failure for many reasons. There was a Celeron version of the current Snapdragon Duets but also had rather poor battery life and I don't think they ever got the ram upgrade that the Snapdragons got. HP had one as well but is also no more. There is a reason the Snapdragon models have succeeded and stayed in production while the Intel ones have failed, they don't try and be both a full laptop and a full tablet, they just do both well enough in a very convenient package; it is small enough that it is never an issue take it with you, the keyboard is the cover and not much thicker than the standard folio tablet cover so always with you, cheap enough that you don't worry about accidents or theft, and has the battery life so you don't need to worry about charge. In a few years when it no longer gets updates it will still safely do 95% of what I use it for and I can always have someone with the skills and tools install linux on it, or use the linux dev environment. But I probably will just disconnect it from my accounts and be perfectly happy with it only doing 95% of what I currently use it for, assuming nothing happens to it before then.

wvenable 2y ago
You don't have to get one from Lenovo. These types of form factors (and many more) are available as full PCs in every possible configuration. There's never any reason to limit yourself to a Chromebook.
- ofalkaed 2y ago
  I did not limit myself to a Chromebook or Lenovo, I went with the tool which best suited the tasks which I was buying it for, best happened to be a Chromebook.
  - wvenable 2y ago
    There is no task for which a Chromebook is best suited. Even web browsing is better on a real computer; being unable to run the real AdBlock Plus soon is going be unacceptable. If Chromebooks aren't overpriced then they are underpowered.
    - fragmede 2y ago
      Basing decisions on future software (mis)features that don't currently exist isn't a good way to approach the problem, regardless of where the software is coming from. Which is to say, there are plenty of places where ChromeOS is the appropriate OS. Because of the verified boot and sandbox, I'd much rather access my bank's website on a Chromebook over a laptop with desktop Linux/MacOS/Windows.
      - wvenable 2y ago
        Given you have no control over said announced and to be released features is a perfectly valid way to approach the problem. Limiting yourself to an underpowered overpriced toy computer created by advertising company that plans to remove features to block ads because you're worried about effectively non-existent security issues no way to live. You'd be better of with an iPad.
        nolist_policy 2y ago
        iPads are great hardware but too limited. You can't really do programming on a standalone iPad. On a Chromebook? Install anything you like in the Linux VM: VS Code, Android Studio, ...
        wvenable 2y ago
        You could just install anything you like on any other device.. it doesn't have to be a Chromebook.
    - ofalkaed 2y ago