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As advertising is a huge part of Google's revenue, I'm surprised they've let an extension like uBlock Origin work on Chrome as long as they have. If you haven'

As advertising is a huge part of Google's revenue, I'm surprised they've let an extension like uBlock Origin work on Chrome as long as they have. If you haven't tried Firefox in a while, it's time to give it another shot. If I could get Firefox to handle Microsoft Teams meetings, I wouldn't even have Chrome installed.

grepexdev 2y ago
I've been using Brave and I recently decided to give Firefox another shot. I clicked an Amazon affiliate link from one of Ben Vallack's YouTube videos for a handheld espresso maker. Next thing I know I'm getting tons of ads on Facebook for espresso machines. This was with uBlock installed. I never, _ever_ had that happen with Brave. In the context of Google deprecating MV2 - Brave's shields are hard coded into the Chromium chromebase and do not rely on MV2 or MV3 [1]. They will also be continuing support for MV2 extensions. 1. https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/ https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/ 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41158769 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41158769 Note: There isn't really any discussion on that HN post, but perhaps this may spark some.
- theshrike79 2y ago
  Brave is still Chrome, just with a different skin. I'm against Chromium the engine's monopoly, not just Chrome. Monoculture is bad for the internet. If it weren't for (mobile) Safari, we'd have a new IE situation on our hands.
  - grepexdev 2y ago
    I'll push back and say Brave is far more than just Chrome with a different skin. Remember, it is a fork. That description is better suited for Edge or Opera. I hear you on the concern about the browser engine monoculture. It's a concern of mine as well. I guess what I should say is - _if_ you're going to use a chromium-based browser, you should probably use Brave. I'm currently looking into Mull browser as it seems to be to Firefox what Brave is to Chrome.
    - theshrike79 2y ago
      Yea, Brave is a fork. And I might actually use it if it weren't for the "we change affiliate links to our own" and the crypto stuff. Might actually give it a second chance now that Google is clearly hamstringing non-chromium browsers on Youtube. Both Firefox and Safari on macOS have weird loading issues - and I pay for Premium so it can't be adblock related.
    - Yizahi 2y ago
      Fork term is too vague as to become almost meaningless. Technically cloning software and changing a single letter anywhere is "a fork". It's just pointless for endusers. So going by a letter of definition Chrome Brave is a fork, but by spirit of a definition it is not. Example - this topic right here. If it was a fork they would have forked the code and maintained Manifest V2 instead of V3, autonomously, like software forks do. But since it is not a real fork (in spirit of the word), they can't and don't want to do it, and simply accept every change the real code owner does, Google in this case.
g96alqdm0x 2y ago
Your point about Firefox not handling the Microsoft teams meeting is interesting as I have found that google meet video calls do not work well or at all on Firefox the last time I checked. my best guess is that this is Google trying to entrench their browser.

grepexdev 2y ago

I've been using Brave and I recently decided to give Firefox another shot. I clicked an Amazon affiliate link from one of Ben Vallack's YouTube videos for a handheld espresso maker. Next thing I know I'm getting tons of ads on Facebook for espresso machines. This was with uBlock installed. I never, _ever_ had that happen with Brave. In the context of Google deprecating MV2 - Brave's shields are hard coded into the Chromium chromebase and do not rely on MV2 or MV3 [1]. They will also be continuing support for MV2 extensions. 1. https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/ https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/ 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41158769 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41158769 Note: There isn't really any discussion on that HN post, but perhaps this may spark some.

theshrike79 2y ago
Brave is still Chrome, just with a different skin. I'm against Chromium the engine's monopoly, not just Chrome. Monoculture is bad for the internet. If it weren't for (mobile) Safari, we'd have a new IE situation on our hands.
- grepexdev 2y ago
  I'll push back and say Brave is far more than just Chrome with a different skin. Remember, it is a fork. That description is better suited for Edge or Opera. I hear you on the concern about the browser engine monoculture. It's a concern of mine as well. I guess what I should say is - _if_ you're going to use a chromium-based browser, you should probably use Brave. I'm currently looking into Mull browser as it seems to be to Firefox what Brave is to Chrome.
  - theshrike79 2y ago
    Yea, Brave is a fork. And I might actually use it if it weren't for the "we change affiliate links to our own" and the crypto stuff. Might actually give it a second chance now that Google is clearly hamstringing non-chromium browsers on Youtube. Both Firefox and Safari on macOS have weird loading issues - and I pay for Premium so it can't be adblock related.
  - Yizahi 2y ago
    Fork term is too vague as to become almost meaningless. Technically cloning software and changing a single letter anywhere is "a fork". It's just pointless for endusers. So going by a letter of definition Chrome Brave is a fork, but by spirit of a definition it is not. Example - this topic right here. If it was a fork they would have forked the code and maintained Manifest V2 instead of V3, autonomously, like software forks do. But since it is not a real fork (in spirit of the word), they can't and don't want to do it, and simply accept every change the real code owner does, Google in this case.

g96alqdm0x 2y ago

Your point about Firefox not handling the Microsoft teams meeting is interesting as I have found that google meet video calls do not work well or at all on Firefox the last time I checked. my best guess is that this is Google trying to entrench their browser.