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Solid-state batteries will probably solve this problem. About twice the energy density of lithium-ion. The first products are just starting to reach the market.

Solid-state batteries will probably solve this problem. About twice the energy density of lithium-ion. The first products are just starting to reach the market. Yoshino sells solid state battery "power stations" (battery/charger/inverter in a box) via Home Depot, so it's finally real. The major battery are frantically trying to get high-volume manufacturing of solid state batteries to work. Samsung is providing samples to car companies.[1] Volume production around 2027, probably at premium prices at first. CATL is also trying for 2027, and says that volume manufacturing is "challenging". Toyota says 2028. Many smaller companies also are making announcements. So, not immediately, but it's past the vaporware stage. [1] https://www.electrive.com/2024/08/05/samsung-sdi-with-first-customer-feedback-on-solid-state-battery-cells/ https://www.electrive.com/2024/08/05/samsung-sdi-with-first-...

gtvwill 2y ago
Nah its still vaporware. Yoshino aren't solid state. https://youtu.be/GTbJVahtCR8 https://youtu.be/GTbJVahtCR8
- Animats 2y ago
  Oh. That's disappointing. Finally, somebody ships, and it's fake. TechInsights did a pro teardown, but it's not free to read.[1] There are lots of startups, "Quantum" this and "Factorial" that, with pretty web sites and no shipping product. The big guys, Samsung, Toyota, Panasonic, CATL, etc. are saying these things are very hard to manufacture. [1] https://www.techinsights.com/ebook/elusive-solid-state-battery-yoshino-technologies-power-station-battery-truly-solid-state https://www.techinsights.com/ebook/elusive-solid-state-batte...
wakawaka28 2y ago
Merely doubling the power of existing batteries is not enough to make electric trimming tools good enough for professionals. The main trouble is that you can't spend all your time charging batteries. Gas lets you refill instantly, and extra gas only costs as much as the container you put it in.

gtvwill 2y ago

Nah its still vaporware. Yoshino aren't solid state. https://youtu.be/GTbJVahtCR8 https://youtu.be/GTbJVahtCR8

Animats 2y ago
Oh. That's disappointing. Finally, somebody ships, and it's fake. TechInsights did a pro teardown, but it's not free to read.[1] There are lots of startups, "Quantum" this and "Factorial" that, with pretty web sites and no shipping product. The big guys, Samsung, Toyota, Panasonic, CATL, etc. are saying these things are very hard to manufacture. [1] https://www.techinsights.com/ebook/elusive-solid-state-battery-yoshino-technologies-power-station-battery-truly-solid-state https://www.techinsights.com/ebook/elusive-solid-state-batte...

wakawaka28 2y ago

Merely doubling the power of existing batteries is not enough to make electric trimming tools good enough for professionals. The main trouble is that you can't spend all your time charging batteries. Gas lets you refill instantly, and extra gas only costs as much as the container you put it in.