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> Regarding regulations - the solution is to not ban things. States like California love to use hard bans as solutions to everything but it is better to just in

by jabl 2y ago

> Regarding regulations - the solution is to not ban things. States like California love to use hard bans as solutions to everything but it is better to just incentivize some things and allow choice to still exist. How would you incentivize using electric tools? Slap a really high tax on gasoline might work; I'm sure all the car owners will understand. /s > After all, if what you’re prescribing is truly better wouldn’t people naturally choose it? No, because pollution is a typical collective action problem (or negative externality, if you like to think in terms of economics). When only you use your gas car and chainsaw, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. And maybe you do it because for you personally those really are better than the electric alternatives? But when everybody does it, you get smog and climate change.

z3t4 2y ago
Gasoline is cheap, compared to inflation the gas prices are going down. Some people (Americans cought) like to drive heavy cars that use a lot of gas. Instead of taxing gas you could tax gas tools depending on how much they pollute, in order to incentive research in catalyst systems.
- xxs 2y ago
  tools emissions are a in totally different ballpark to begin with. Heck, virtually no push behind mower would have an EFI. 2stroke chainsaws are just that - gas burners. Pretty much everything uses carburetors, at some point the tuning of the latter was 'disabled' The injection/catalyst/particulate filter, etc. would add non-trivial amounts of weight and cost. Stihl MS 500¡ has a fuel injection system[0], but it's quite pricey (~1400euro)... and sort of unique in this regard. EU has a hefty tax on the gas (both excise and VAT) - that doesn't do much to prevent the use of petrol engines (both 2 and 4 stroke) in gardening equipment (zero ethanol is just standard at the pump, though). However, the large heavy cars are not common. [0]: https://donegan.ie/product/stihl-ms500i https://donegan.ie/product/stihl-ms500i

by jabl 2y ago

z3t4 2y ago

Gasoline is cheap, compared to inflation the gas prices are going down. Some people (Americans cought) like to drive heavy cars that use a lot of gas. Instead of taxing gas you could tax gas tools depending on how much they pollute, in order to incentive research in catalyst systems.

xxs 2y ago
tools emissions are a in totally different ballpark to begin with. Heck, virtually no push behind mower would have an EFI. 2stroke chainsaws are just that - gas burners. Pretty much everything uses carburetors, at some point the tuning of the latter was 'disabled' The injection/catalyst/particulate filter, etc. would add non-trivial amounts of weight and cost. Stihl MS 500¡ has a fuel injection system[0], but it's quite pricey (~1400euro)... and sort of unique in this regard. EU has a hefty tax on the gas (both excise and VAT) - that doesn't do much to prevent the use of petrol engines (both 2 and 4 stroke) in gardening equipment (zero ethanol is just standard at the pump, though). However, the large heavy cars are not common. [0]: https://donegan.ie/product/stihl-ms500i https://donegan.ie/product/stihl-ms500i