"Furthermore if John performes #1 with the seat down, the question of the final position of the seat is moot compared to the question of "why is John gross?" T

"Furthermore if John performes #1 with the seat down, the question of the final position of the seat is moot compared to the question of "why is John gross?" That's precisely what I am taking issue with - an implicit assumption that lifting of the seat ONLY benefits John and HARMS Marsh. I think it's more appropriate to characterize it as bestowing equal benefit on both parties (clean seat) and equal work as well (John lifts the seat / Marsha puts it down).