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Hey all, this article fails to mention that LA County voters recently passed a measure that allows them to vote out the Sheriff Guess nobody thought of that ov

Hey all, this article fails to mention that LA County voters recently passed a measure that allows them to vote out the Sheriff Guess nobody thought of that over the last half century

thaumasiotes 2y ago
What did that measure actually do? County sheriff is an elected position; shouldn't it have been covered by California's normal recall process, which passed more than 100 years ago? The California Constitution directly provides only for the recall of statewide officers, but it also requires† the legislature to "provide for recall of local officers" [except where the locality already does so], so provisions for recall must already have been in place? † https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CONS&sectionNum=SEC.%2019.&article=II https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...
- recursivecaveat 2y ago
  Apparently it allows the board of supervisors to remove the sheriff for cause: https://www.dailynews.com/2022/11/08/election-2022-la-county-voters-decide-in-measure-a-if-supervisors-can-remove-sheriff/ https://www.dailynews.com/2022/11/08/election-2022-la-county...
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    That's not exactly a win for democracy; it just extends to the board of supervisors the power to nullify the electorate's decision. Why was passing that measure better than directly recalling the sheriff?
- yieldcrv 2y ago
  > This section does not affect counties and cities whose charters provide for recall. Maybe that was the issue. LA County may have had that in the charter but had yet passed no provision for doing it?
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    If you read the other reply to my comment, you probably saw that in fact, the measure does nothing related to what you claimed it did. Most likely because recall provisions already existed. https://www.lavote.gov/docs/rrcc/documents/guide-to-recall.pdf https://www.lavote.gov/docs/rrcc/documents/guide-to-recall.p...
    - yieldcrv 2y ago
      The board votes. I’m fine with that, I’m fine with my phrasing of “them” to vote
      - thaumasiotes 2y ago
        Ah, when you said "them", you were referring to a group you had never mentioned. Makes sense.

Hey all, this article fails to mention that LA County voters recently passed a measure that allows them to vote out the Sheriff Guess nobody thought of that over the last half century

thaumasiotes 2y ago

What did that measure actually do? County sheriff is an elected position; shouldn't it have been covered by California's normal recall process, which passed more than 100 years ago? The California Constitution directly provides only for the recall of statewide officers, but it also requires† the legislature to "provide for recall of local officers" [except where the locality already does so], so provisions for recall must already have been in place? † https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CONS&sectionNum=SEC.%2019.&article=II https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

recursivecaveat 2y ago
Apparently it allows the board of supervisors to remove the sheriff for cause: https://www.dailynews.com/2022/11/08/election-2022-la-county-voters-decide-in-measure-a-if-supervisors-can-remove-sheriff/ https://www.dailynews.com/2022/11/08/election-2022-la-county...
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  That's not exactly a win for democracy; it just extends to the board of supervisors the power to nullify the electorate's decision. Why was passing that measure better than directly recalling the sheriff?
yieldcrv 2y ago
> This section does not affect counties and cities whose charters provide for recall. Maybe that was the issue. LA County may have had that in the charter but had yet passed no provision for doing it?
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  If you read the other reply to my comment, you probably saw that in fact, the measure does nothing related to what you claimed it did. Most likely because recall provisions already existed. https://www.lavote.gov/docs/rrcc/documents/guide-to-recall.pdf https://www.lavote.gov/docs/rrcc/documents/guide-to-recall.p...
  - yieldcrv 2y ago
    The board votes. I’m fine with that, I’m fine with my phrasing of “them” to vote
    - thaumasiotes 2y ago
      Ah, when you said "them", you were referring to a group you had never mentioned. Makes sense.