> These sound to me like people who "wanted it", and probably had a harder time than people who loved the work. yea all of these elite engineers at FAANG had a

> These sound to me like people who "wanted it", and probably had a harder time than people who loved the work. yea all of these elite engineers at FAANG had a harder time than all of the lisp/hobby/gamedev/etc coders that just love it. totally. > if you hate programming with a passion, you're going to have a lot of trouble motivating to put in the work to get good at it. i absolutely hate programming. i hate it more than any other job i've done. i put in the thousands of hours over the last ~2 years getting good at it and i am very very good at it. and i'm not talking about research code, i'm talking clean, production quality, engineering code. the reason i did this is because i knew i'd get paid a fat signing bonus/RSUs/cash base at the end. simple. so you're just wrong.