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Medieval
- j7ake 2y agoMight as well buy Nord piano and access their awesome sound library.
- sentrysapper 2y agoI'm not sure you can get a functional Nord Piano for $300
- edngibson 2y agoReally like the website design. Unique, but not at a sacrifice of usability
- randomcommentz 2y agoI liked it too, but didn't like that I couldn't zoom out to view more, i found that frustrating
- spicybright 2y agoI can't even think of a good reason not to allow that, it's all static images and text.
- codetrotter 2y agoIn Safari on iOS I can zoom in on the page with whatever that reverse-pinch gesture is called. I think Apple also came to that same conclusion as you guys quite a few years ago that allowing the website owner to prevent the user from zooming in on pages on the phone was incredibly user-hostile and so they stopped honoring the part of the meta viewport html5 tag that specifies that the page cannot be zoomed in.
- jay_kyburz 2y agoTry opening it when your browser is full screen at 1440p. You can't even see the whole device without scrolling.
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- ramathornn 2y agoI can’t take this company seriously after all the R1 nonsense. I get that no product is perfect in its first version but it sure feels malicious how they fooled everyone with what they promised vs what they delivered.
- DAlperin 2y agoFwiw Teenage Engineering is a design firm who was originally contracted by Rabbit to design the physical device. I don't think they had anything to do with the functionality.
- ramathornn 2y agoThat’s a good point, I guess they didn’t have any hand in the software…just seems icky to me. I trusted the product mainly because of their name, it’s hard for me to understand how they didn’t see what the underlying product was when they attached their name to it.
- VonGuard 2y agoGizmondo was designed by Sir Clive Sinclair. First rule of a Producers-like scheme is to have the thing designed by a famous designer.
- mlsu 2y agoYeah but they can pick their clients. Big miss to be involved imho, although maybe it doesn't make a difference to their market.
- rigonkulous 2y agoTeenage Engineering use a type of design that is intended to obfuscate the functionality of the device. For example, their Pocket Operator series use LCD displays which have very little utility to the experience of music-making. The OP1 has an OLED display which mostly displays non-sequitur nonsense. Those of us who despise Teenage Engineering are reacting to a design ethos which devalues the users knowledge and understanding of what they are doing, over whimsical non-sequitur. You're not getting a musical instrument - you're getting a device, which despite itself, can nevertheless be used to make some kind of music. That's the beauty of music, not the device. You can make music with anything. So the feeling among those of us who also make musical instruments is that Teenage Engineering are packaging up an inherent feature of music and selling it to people in a fancy way - they don't really care about the music-making features, which are almost secondary to their effort to design aesthetically appealing, moderately functional, expensive toys. And in that light, it makes complete sense that they would involve themselves in the Rabbit R1. The impression is that Teenage Engineering kind of despise their customers, who they think are dumb, and they therefore invest in non-sequitur aesthetics in lieu of smart design that pushes the industry forward. Teenage Engineering ship exploitation and ridicule - they don't make finely crafted instruments for musicians to hone their skills. Most great musicians who play with an OP1 and make music with it, do so despite the devices' many roadblocks to creativity.
- corytheboyd 2y agoWas hoping it would just be a cute lil $10 or so VST/AU plugin, but still love the concept
- colesantiago 2y agoIs this limited edition?
- washadjeffmad 2y agoI don't need this. I didn't need this. I'll get it when we upgrade Spitfire this year.
- classichasclass 2y agoI don't need it either. Also, take my filthy lucre, you beasts.
- ChrisArchitect 2y agoThis is so wacky I thought it was like an old April Fool's Day joke page by them
- jszymborski 2y agoThat's sorta become Teenage's brand these days. I can't decide about how I feel about it but I'm defaulting to digging it.
- Hamuko 2y agoYeah, this seems like one of those April Fool's jokes that for all intents and purposes seems like a joke but is an actual product that you can buy. Kinda like how Gmail with its massive 1 GB of storage was announced on the first of April.
- discardedrefuse 2y agoThis seems to be the same as the EP-133 K.O. II with a difference: - 128MB memory including 96MB ROM sounds and 32MB user sample memory on the Medieval vs - 64 MB memory, or 999 sample slots on the K.O. II.
- 22c 2y agoYes, is this a slight hardware refresh to the EP-133 with a new skin and different factory presets? The KO-1 had a similar "Street Fighter" edition, which could be loaded with the original PO-33 samples. Are there any reasons not to buy this over the EP-133 from a pure capability standpoint? I wish the marketing were a bit clearer on that front, seems we need to intuit this by diving into the specs and capabilities ourselves.
- cammikebrown 2y agoThere are new features in the software (presumably implementable on the original if they choose to) but the new one has twice as much memory, with the new samples taking up 75% of that.
- inciampati 2y agoDid they resolve the intense hardware bugs with the EP-133? I haven't been following after basically giving up on TE due to this (EP-133) being the second time they sold me a lemon.
- worthless-trash 2y agoDo you mean slidergate, if so, yes thats solved. I still use mine regularly without significant issues.
- fiatpandas 2y agoIt has a new arpeggiator, new punch in and send effects. So, different firmware.
- keyle 2y ago
- apitman 2y agoIf you've never heard of bardcore it's well worth a google
- jmspring 2y agoThat is both amazing and frightful. I like the creativity that we can find these days.
- defrost 2y agoSpeaking of both amazing and frightful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIfsFefatg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIfsFefatg (Pumped Up Kicks, medieval style.)
- zuluonezero 2y agoLife changed
- bombcar 2y agoThis did to me what literal music videos did to me years ago
- kashyapc 2y agoThank you, that was absolutely worth it. :-) I just heard their medieval version of "somebody that I used to know" -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1aVmjvYTI https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1aVmjvYTI The lyrical changes were wonderful.
- defrost 2y agoIt's worth going fully OG, Hildegard von Blingin' covers Hildegard Von Bingen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9K9PfjRjxM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9K9PfjRjxM I bought the '82 vinyl in '82: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feather_on_the_Breath_of_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feather_on_the_Breath_of_God
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- fnord77 2y agoI love the segments in the LED display. That's attention to detail. Bet that cost a pretty penny
- sneak 2y agoYou should see the margins on their other products. They can well afford to dip into the brand marketing budget to have things like this produced. :)
- andrewstuart 2y agoWeird is good.
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- jeremyjh 2y agoI have no use for it but I am really happy there are people doing this.
- b1n 2y agoNice 'Holy Mountain' vibes in the promo video. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdXGhsAynGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdXGhsAynGI
- bbor 2y agoSomeone please help this little skeptic: is that video real, or Midjourney? The short cuts make me think Midjourney, but then they have a shot with their product in it.
- dhritzkiv 2y agoIt's certainly real. What was it about the video that made you think it's generative? That it's surrealistic?
- bbor 2y agoWell yeah, mostly that it has a ton of actors and setpieces (and a horse!) for what AFAICT is a joke product. I mean, it's perhaps not a joke, but... surely anyone who actually wanted to be a touring musician with this kind of music would just load up sounds onto a regular board? Is "musicians who don't even know the genre they'll use professionally yet" a valid market in the first place? And it consists of short, highly composed shots, which is how non-professional (read: non-Sora) AI videos are these days. They create the individual images then animate them into 2-4 second clips with slight, predictable movement.
- d1sxeyes 2y agoTeenage Engineering are well known for their quirky instruments, I don’t think this is a joke. Musicians are a funny bunch, just because there’s a simple way of doing something doesn’t mean that that’s what they’ll do.
- objclxt 2y ago> Is "musicians who don't even know the genre they'll use professionally yet" a valid market in the first place? That's not really Teenage Engineering's primary market, in the same way Rolex's primary market isn't "people who need to tell the time". Both T.E and Rolex products do their jobs really well, but the people buying them are buying more for the aesthetic than the function. Teenage Engineering are primarily a design boutique, although musicians do use their products their main audience are collectors / audiophiles / graphic designers going through a mid-life crisis.
- stitched2gethr 2y agoI'm a fan of Teenage Engineering. I think they make some really cool products but they have a few that really makes me wonder, who is this for?
- ramesh31 2y agoNobody, that's the best part.
- whatshisface 2y agoI think their target audience are well-heeled Apple customers who like to imagine that they are musicians. Hacker culture doesn't have a "collector of expensive African originals" role, so "amateur who collects equipment far out of proportion to the time they invest in using any of it" has formed to collect the same psychological energy. It's about the combination of the creator fantasy on the surface backed up by the collector's motives beneath. It is a very common way to present as a consumer in hobby markets, but it has elaborated itself to a great degree in this case because hobbyist musicians aren't surrounded by retired session artists the way, for example, woodworkers are surrounded by retired tradesmen.
- jahewson 2y agoSeems a bit harsh. There’s surely more dimensions to their market than this?
- sandspar 2y agoHe has developed a theory and would like to share it for kudos.
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- whatshisface 2y agoI glossed over the "Apple" dimension of elevating plastic stuff to luxury goods by being amazingly careful about injection molding marks etc, but I don't know a lot about it. I think the daring fireball guy is the recognized expert on the consumer experience side of it.
- serf 2y agoI like the interesting segment display. I absolutely hate the rounded rectangular buttons within the hard square cut-outs. i'm not the market, so maybe I just don't know what i'm judging.
- BHSPitMonkey 2y agoIt's a reskin of the EP-133, so likely reusing most of the manufacturing tooling as-is.
- havaloc 2y agoB&H has a demo of this on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaIx0KMOg5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaIx0KMOg5I
- runiq 2y agoThey can inject that beat directly into my veins.
- reciprocity 2y agoI'm very sure you'd quickly get tired of that demo track.
- rcarmo 2y agoThis is the only video they need to market it. The Monty Python vibe at the beginning is hilarious, and the walkthrough delightful.
- import 2y agoOne of the best gear demo I watched in last few years
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- fiatpandas 2y agoDon’t miss the lovingly crafted manual: https://teenage.engineering/guides/ep-1320 https://teenage.engineering/guides/ep-1320 Looks great blown up on a 4K monitor due to extensive use of SVG.
- WatchDog 2y agoHas anyone began dabbling in music production, just to play with some of teenage engineering's gadgets? I'm pretty sure if I bought one, it would just sit in my cupboard, but I'm looking for an excuse to buy one, has anyone here gotten more use out of one of their gadgets than they expected they would?
- whatshisface 2y agoYou could try LMMS and if you like it you could get FL Studio.
- FireInsight 2y agoBut if you don't like it, you might like something else. I'm a big-time ableton user and don't like LMMS.
- diggan 2y agoDoing music with hardware outside of the computer is way different than making music on the computer. I probably tried for 10 years to get into music making via the computer, but never really got into the flow of it. A week after purchasing my first hardware some years ago (the first Novation Circuit), I had already starting putting together full tracks and it was a lot more engaging. So even if you try out LMMS/FL Studio/Ableton/making-music-on-a-computer and don't like it, doesn't mean you don't like making music at all, maybe it's just the wrong workflow for you.
- w-ll 2y agoWe the target market. Income, gadgets, aspirations.
- ehsankia 2y agoI would recommend starting with the Pocket Operators: https://teenage.engineering/products/po https://teenage.engineering/products/po Good to get your feet wet without breaking your wallet.
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- UncleOxidant 2y agoHow the heck did they get 7 segment LEDs (probably more than 7) in that style? And where can I buy some?
- po 2y ago10 segment LEDs actually... the KO-II that this seems to be based on has similar ones but they're a little less curvy: https://teenage.engineering/products/ep-133 https://teenage.engineering/products/ep-133
- leptons 2y agoDoubt those are individual "7 segment LEDs", more likely it's just a light-pipe with a specialized shape, and white LEDs beneath. There's another very similar device on their website with slightly differently shaped "7 segment LEDs".
- Karliss 2y agoInitially I also though that they are just using same trick as what they have for rest of the custom colored indicator shapes. But after looking at some teardown videos of EP-133 it seems to be using real 3x(10+1)segment display module for the number section. So this might still be specially shape mask on top that 10 segment display. But considering that it by itself isn't exactly common (compared to 7 or even 14 and 16 segment displays) I wouldn't be too surprised if they were able to find a factory in china that would make a customized segment led modules in batches of few thousands. At the end of day what are 7 segment displays if not a bunch of LEDs and light guides molded into single plastic case. It wouldn't be cheap but for a premium product with focus on visual design and experience like what the teenage engineer makes it doesn't seem impossible. As for something more accessible to a hobbyists - people have been experimenting with placing custom cutouts on top of LED displays with quite good looking results. It can be as simple as thin laser cut stencil on top of LED matrix display https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLgUtjyKO6Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLgUtjyKO6Q With thicker 3d printed mask you can even shift the positions of segments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt2merZcuno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt2merZcuno
- gorgoiler 2y agoIt’s fascinating trying to play any kind of tune on the pads of this device when in “keys” mode. I have the sibling model and find it almost impossible to produce anything that sounds “normal”. I don’t really mind — it’s hardly meant to be a piano after all — and it certainly makes for an interesting phenomenon. It’s also one I think the designers nod to: the pads can be retuned to different scales suggesting a complete break from any kind of equal temperament octaves. While I haven’t had the chance to ride one, I imagine it is the same feeling as riding a joke bike where the headset is geared to invert the sense of the handlebars (left is right, right is left) or using a pair of circlip pliers where squeezing the handles opens the jaws rather than closing them. Alas, Teenage Engineering really set themselves a high bar with the OP-1 and I still don’t think they’ve ever come close to it. The OP-Z just didn’t compete without a screen, the pocket operators (and the K.O. II and Medieval, which have the same interface) have a much less intuitive design language, their IKEA lights are controlled by colour coded, identically shaped controls on the back, etc. They are all lovely products at good price points that do their jobs delightfully but when they came from the same studio as the OP-1 it is like comparing a Pininfarina Peugeot 205 with a Pininfarina Ferrari 250.
- srik 2y agoI had their OP-1 for a long while till I had to part with it for some emergency cash. It was a truly delightful thing to play with and lost neither charm nor monetary value even years later.
- lewispollard 2y ago> the pads can be retuned to different scales suggesting a complete break from any kind of equal temperament octaves. I was kind of curious about this since in the medieval era, equal temperament wasn't used very much. But it just allows retuning to major/minor and modes in equal temperament, as far as I can tell. Would be an excellent device for medieval music if it could be tuned to meantone, Pythagorean and so on!
- gorgoiler 2y agoThe version I have, the KO II EP-133, has the following scales: - Equal Temperament - Major (Ionian) - Minor (Aeolian) - Dorian - Phrygian - Lydian - Mixolydian - Locrian - Major Pentatonic - Minor Pentatonic https://teenage.engineering/guides/ep-133/how-to#12.2-change-the-scale-in-keys-mode https://teenage.engineering/guides/ep-133/how-to#12.2-change...
- pjs_ 2y agoHow can you hate on this. These guys are slaying so hard
- maxglute 2y agoIncredible, but I can't believe this came out before their TWS. https://www.yankodesign.com/2022/07/27/teenage-engineering-bd-1-tws-earbuds-concept/ https://www.yankodesign.com/2022/07/27/teenage-engineering-b...
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- boguscoder 2y agoWebsite design made me click the buttons for good several seconds until I realized this a photo of a real deal, not a web replica of the instrument. Nicely done, wonder if web trial would be possible and attract more “I probably want this” fans/consumers
- diiaann 2y agoUser research IFYKYK
- kromokromo 2y agoYou can tell Teenage Engineering is a fun place to work.
- michael_michael 2y agoTaking retro to its logical conclusion.
- rkachowski 2y agoelements of the past and future combining to make something not quite as good as either
- firewolf34 2y agoMedieval, more like MIDIeval, am I right?
- ctm92 2y agoMissed opportunity
- moffkalast 2y agoIt's definitely something that plays Bardcore at least.
- camillomiller 2y agosounds like a function! MIDIeval();
- Separo 2y agoI'm pretty sure that's the joke.
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- bickett 2y agoSeems cool, I'd buy it and put it on my book shelf
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- savydv 2y agoEverything on the teenage engineering website, every product, everything is too creative. Loved it!
- kantbtrue 2y agoSame! loved the design and minimalism of the product.
- throwaway290 2y agoHad EP-133 KO II. Very frustrating. First time, I had an inspiration for a beat so I grabbed it and after an hour of learning curve I realized basically anything I wanted to do I couldn't. Limited time signatures didn't let me record the beat I wanted in the first place. Then it turned out only one fx can be used at a time (want delay and reverb? nope. want delay on the synth and reverb on the beat? nope again), you cannot actually save projects, cannot tune notes etc. Even for using it just as a fancy overpriced MIDI input, velocities from pads were way too unpredictable compared to a cheap korg nanosomething.
- fermigier 2y agoWhy "1320" ? Could it be because, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1320 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1320 "In France, a large group of common people band together in Normandy on Easter Sunday to begin a crusade, after a teenage shepherd says he was visited by the Holy Spirit" (my emphasis).
- diggan 2y agoThe original is EP-133, so not that far away. Regarding the year dating, more likely to be a reference to just the general medieval theme. Only event in the year (in Sweden) I could find that is notable is the execution of Magnus Birgersson (Heir apparent). Not sure why'd they reference that though, so I'm guessing it's just a number that is "close" to 133 + in the medieval times.
- JansjoFromIkea 2y agowithout knowing much about the details of how this works; is it possibly more in line with another Pocket Operator? PO-32 possibly?
- pyinstallwoes 2y agoI thought because it’s a nod to something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mu_SP-1200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mu_SP-1200
- isoprophlex 2y agoOoohhh they even medieval-ized the numerals in the segment display. I don't need this at all, but I must have it... Edit: to add something unrelated, until today I never knew how badly I needed hurdy gurdy electronic music in my life.
- Almondsetat 2y agoLooks incredibly kitsch, they should stick with their futuristic designs.
- daotoad 2y agoIt's the second coming of Enigma. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCMXC_a.D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCMXC_a.D.
- Symbiote 2y agoShouldn't the Latin be "instrumentum electronicum"? "instrumentalis" and "electronicum" are both adjectives. (But it's 25 years since I had to read Latin at school.)
- oersted 2y agoThe whole thing is covered in mock latin
- totetsu 2y agoOh wow .. did they get Pil and Galia Kollectiv to do that marketing video? https://www.kollectiv.co.uk/TheImmigrants/index.html https://www.kollectiv.co.uk/TheImmigrants/index.html
- zeristor 2y agoAn ornate piece by B&H: “Tales of the EP-1320: Medieval (teenage engineering)” https://youtube.com/watch?v=BaIx0KMOg5I https://youtube.com/watch?v=BaIx0KMOg5I
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- rcarmo 2y agoBonus points for the Monty Python and the Holy Grail spoof.
- zeristor 2y agoHe mentioned seeing Jersey across the water, I guess that places him on Guernsey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism_in_the_Channel_Islands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism_in_the_Channel_Islan...
- echelon 2y agoI had no idea the B&H folks were this cool. I've ordered mundane stuff like C-stands and apple boxes from them. They looked like a dated 2000's era storefront.
- fnfjfk 2y agoSo. Here’s the thing about B&H: https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/ofccp/ofccp20170814 https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/ofccp/ofccp20170814
- hiatus 2y agoThat's 7 years old at this point.
- groby_b 2y agoIf you thought B&H is cool, you haven't met Sweetwater yet ;) (B&H is great for photo/video, but for music, they're not it, IMHO)
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- gerlofs 2y agoHow is this any different from any company selling musical instruments? Car advertisers don't sell you on their product by showing you the latest model stuck in gridlock traffic.
- nxobject 2y agoDon’t forget the cocoa-scented pads. Most important feature! (I’m not kidding, it’s tucked away in the middle of the feature list.)
- 4ggr0 2y agosomeday i'll be able to afford a TE product. someday... if i can afford an OP-1 without flinching i know that i've made it.
- system2 2y agoVisuals are top-notch.
- csmpltn 2y agoThis is unnecessary consumerism...
- cnity 2y agoThere's sort of two ways to look at the Teenage Engineering products. The first is as a tool to produce music, and the second is as a kind of interactive sculpture. The design and production of these things is so good they are almost like art themselves. Are they useful? Not really, you could achieve the same thing with a VST — hardware isn't required for this — but to think in this way is to miss the point. Are sculptures, picture frames, decorative vases and ornamental unused candles unnecessary?
- lomase 2y agoYou are comparing dessign with art.
- jtwaleson 2y agoYou are speaking as if these are well-defined and mutually exclusive categories.
- dkdbejwi383 2y agoWhere do you draw the distinction between the two? Where do you fit things like pop art into this continuum, or objets d'art?
- lomase 2y agoIn my opinion a company can not make art.
- criddell 2y agoAnd you are building a false dichotomy.
- csmpltn 2y agoThis is a digital hardware synth that makes sword-clinking sounds. It goes for 300 USD. This is maybe half a step above a fart cushion. There’s no need to buy this whatsoever…
- fergie 2y agoIf I was rich, I would buy all the Teenage Engineering things.
- lewisflude 2y agoI know many musicians who love using Teenage Engineerings products for making music, performing live etc. However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. At the very least, Teenage Engineering hardware is generally very well designed, high quality and built to last. At least this product has some creative spirit behind it. I'm in love with the merge of Medieval and Modern Electronic here! For an example of excessive consumerism, look no further than the Eurorack[1] space. They don't call it Eurocrack for nothing! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurorack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurorack
- brtkdotse 2y ago> However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. Is that such a bad thing? It’s supposed to be a hobby, if geeking out on gear relaxes you you shouldn’t have to feel bad for not being productive with it.
- fellerts 2y agoNot at all! I'm reminded of this blog post: https://brooker.co.za/blog/2023/04/20/hobbies.html https://brooker.co.za/blog/2023/04/20/hobbies.html
- lewisflude 2y agoMany of my hobbies (mechanical keyboards, flashlights, guitar pedals) have been addictive and going as incredibly deep as I have has made me appreciate each item to a new degree.
- wintermutestwin 2y agoI am a shitty bedroom guitarist that has pro-level gear that I get endless hours of enjoyment from buying/selling and "knob turning." I probably spend 50% of my guitar hobby time on non-playing activities and it all brings me much joy. The fact that there are tons of consumers like me makes this gear more affordable for everyone, including low level artists.
- max_ 2y agoTeenage Engineering is like the reincarnation Apple Computers.
- medion 2y agoWhoever is the creative director at TE is amazing.
- kfarber 2y agothis is going to be amazing for fantasy mmorpgs
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- yreg 2y agoI would love the product visual to be interactive. It screams "play with me".
- uwagar 2y agoi checked if it wasnt april 1 :D
- siquick 2y agoI’ve been producing music on both software and hardware for 20 years. Borrowed the EP-133 KO II from a mate and found it to be highly initiative and pure style over substance. I don’t get what its selling point is. OP-1 I can understand but this thing is pointless. But at least the layout follows she Golden Ratio I guess.
- alfiedotwtf 2y agoThe K.O II makes the Octatrack look like a UX Award Winner
- rjh29 2y agoIf you want to make real music you buy a laptop. It's just a fun musical toy.
- drakonka 2y agoI'm only mildly and peripherally interested in music making but this looks _like so much fun_.
- dkdbejwi383 2y agoI love the blackletter style 7-seg display. Seems like the people at TE have fun over-designing gadgets that are more aesthetic than usable. Good for them that they've managed to make a viable business out of it.
- diggan 2y ago> Seems like the people at TE have fun over-designing gadgets that are more aesthetic than usable You're saying this like their over-designing blocks/prevents basic usability, but the small amount of TE devices I've tried, they just look good, are easy to understand and are easy to use. Maybe the sound/workflow isn't revolutionary, but not every device needs to be either. I'll still keep mostly to Elektron, but can't say I haven't been close to buying an OP-1 before the prices got too crazy.
- dkdbejwi383 2y ago> You're saying this like their over-designing blocks/prevents basic usability I meant it more like they are not building products that are there to meet some need for the general population that isn't met, they aren't designing and building general use-case type products, but instead building extremely niche things like medieval samplers. Oddball, extreme niche uses. Like they aren't trying to build something like a piano that's light and easy to move, or a guitar where the strings never break, but these fun gimmicky toys. Something nobody ever asked for but which makes you smile.
- diggan 2y ago> I meant it more like they are not building products that are there to meet some need for the general population that isn't met, they aren't designing and building general use-case type products, but instead building extremely niche things You're describing like 90% of all music hardware that is being launched today :) Who really needs a new delay pedal when there already exists thousands of them? Hardly makes them being gimmicks though. A groovebox with a sampler isn't that niche at all I'd say, it's just the theme/design that is niche, but considering it's also a small hardware upgrade compare to the original, it isn't just a different theme but an incremental upgrade. That said, as a electronic music producer myself I wouldn't buy this either, but not because of the theme/design.
- komposit 2y agoAah so this is how we got the medieval version of still D.R.E. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Uvr5v8IOE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Uvr5v8IOE
- mainframed 2y agoNo love for the long s¹ when using a medieval font :(. ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s
- severak_cz 2y agoI found it really funny. It's obviously probably useless for actual medieval music[0] but I think it can find it's users in bardcore or dungeon synth circles. You can definitely recreate this just by collecting appropriate VSTs and sample libraries, even probably by just loading some "medieval samples" to some groovebox. But if I got this second hand on cheap price I would definitely make some fun with it even if it has somewhat cryptic labels. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6_8ZEhmaGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6_8ZEhmaGE
- diggan 2y ago> You can definitely recreate this just by collecting appropriate VSTs and sample libraries, even probably by just loading some "medieval samples" to some groovebox. This is true for basically all electronic music hardware available today and in the past. I guess what we really pay for when buying these type of hardware is what's missing rather than what's included, and the constraints that helps you focus on actual music making.
- jeegsy 2y agoLets just take a moment to give thanks for the technology that has made "dungeon synth" possible.
- severak_cz 2y agoYeah, it was all 90s ROMplers and soundfounts. I can definitely record some dungeon synth bangers with my Kawai K1 (which is basically ROMpler, just samples are single cycle waveforms) and it sounds just right.
- testaccount135 2y agoAt first I thought this was an Aprils Fools' Day joke then I looked in the calendar and saw it was too late. Is there any functional difference to the EP-133? Interestingly It seems that they have different operating systems. https://teenage.engineering/downloads https://teenage.engineering/downloads
- import 2y agoFew new features (not revolutionary) and bigger memory
- nmeofthestate 2y agoThe 10-segment digits are very cool.
- alfiedotwtf 2y agoTeenage.engineering must be owned by “people of leisure”, creating things they feel are personally fun and satisfying without worrying about the business side of things like profitability. Sure the OP-1 and the PO-400 are cool, but the price of the OP-1 Field is a non-starter and the usability of the K.O II would make lookmumnocomputer cry. Now… this!?! Who would look at this and say “yes, I need one of these” (I just checked the date to make sure it’s not either April 1st or Halloween) Maybe they’re really performance artists wanting to hone their industrial design skills in parallel on the side
- thom 2y agoI've managed to convince myself over the years I wouldn't actually use any of Teenage Engineering's stuff, however I might lust after it. But 200 hours of Manor Lords and a Lankum gig later, this was the fastest £249 I've ever spent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mRQK9kCHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mRQK9kCHA
- addandsubtract 2y agoMeanwhile, it costs €350 in Euroland.
- TheRealPomax 2y agoNow do alcoholic beverages!
- phatskat 2y agoI was pining for an OP-1 for yeaaaars. I finally got one a few years ago and just picked up a field, and I’ve got a couple of the POM line now too. No regrets, all super fun. Wiring the POM 400 to my controller is very satisfying
- winstonrc 2y agoDoes anyone have recommendations for a more practical, entry-level device for making small songs? I’m making a survival-horror game for the Playdate and need some music that fits the vibe. The reason I’ve been eyeing hardware is because I spend all my time writing code and drawing pixel art, so it would be nice to have something away from the computer to work with.
- neom 2y agoTheir other stuff is pretty good. The device this is built around is amazingly fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeafE30nIC4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeafE30nIC4 - OPZ also fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCgjKgPrE0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCgjKgPrE0M
- severak_cz 2y agoOld Android device with (pirated APK of) Caustic 3[0]. Or old Windows PC with Ultranos Dreamer[1] if you wanna go really medieval. [0] Caustic 3 was removed from Google Play unfortunately, you need to download it from alternative sources [1] see https://zahrada.svita.cz/en/ultranos-dreamer https://zahrada.svita.cz/en/ultranos-dreamer
- SonOfLilit 2y agoMy favorite device for standalone music authoring is the NI Maschine. They sell an expensive standalone version but a cheap second hand controller feelssvery off-the-computer with your laptop connected but the screen closed.
- strangus 2y agoThis is going to dominate the dungeon synth.
- theahura 2y agoO man I love teenage engineering. I built a visual archive of their work just a few days ago -- https://play.soot.com/teenageengineering https://play.soot.com/teenageengineering
- a3w 2y agohow do i pinch to zoom with a mouse?
- eweise 2y agoMost of the stuff seems way overpriced https://teenage.engineering/products/field-desk https://teenage.engineering/products/field-desk Looks like a $100 desk for $1,600
- TremendousJudge 2y agoit's not a desk man, it's a field desk, a whole new category of product
- zdragnar 2y agoWow, they even exclude it from their free shipping offer.
- andrejk 2y agoI definitely wouldn't pay $1600 but I like the idea of an ultra-modular and configurable desk. I wonder if you could build something similar with 80-20 extrusions (and/or similar knock-off) and an Ikea desktop. There's a huge ecosystem of ways to integrate/extend these and you could do some cool things with them.
- BigParm 2y agoIt's madness that they're selling merch around this. I love it.
- cschneid 2y agoThis made me think of a question I've had for a bit now. What is the cheapest way to get a grid of buttons that wires into a laptop (mac if it matters) to play sound effects? My wife is a teacher and would really enjoy hitting a button and getting some dumb sound effect to play. But it's just a lark, so it's not worth too much $ invested. I had assumed a cheap drum pad + midi, but not 100% sure that makes sense.
- pfyra 2y agoPerhaps a "game" with a different sound for each key on the keyboard? Can be created quite simply with SDL.
- samatman 2y agoSearch for "effects pad" on your online marketer of choice. Show a few to your wife in the affordable range (whatever that means to you), get the one she likes. Personally I would make sure the screenshots do not include the price tag, but that's me.
- gaudystead 2y agoMy guess would be to build a DIY Stream Deck (basically a standalone keyboard with macros mapped to the keys), such as the one found here: https://www.partsnotincluded.com/diy-stream-deck-mini-macro-keyboard/ https://www.partsnotincluded.com/diy-stream-deck-mini-macro-...
- Bjartr 2y agoCheapest grid would probably be an external numpad controlling a soundboard https://github.com/Shadetheartist/Numboard_X https://github.com/Shadetheartist/Numboard_X
- strangecasts 2y agoNot necessarily the cheapest possible options, but cheap enough and fairly quick to get going: If you want a MIDI pad controller, the Korg nanoPAD 2 [1] is $65 new (and often pops up used) and powered entirely off USB. You can then set up Sitala [2] to listen for notes from the pad and drag-and-drop samples onto each note. If you want keyboard-style keys, the Pimoroni Keybow kit [2] is $57 - there is a bit of assembly, but no soldering. [1] https://www.korg.com/us/products/computergear/nanopad2/ https://www.korg.com/us/products/computergear/nanopad2/ [2] https://decomposer.de/sitala/ https://decomposer.de/sitala/ [2] https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/keybow-2040 https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/keybow-2040
- swozey 2y agoThese bastards. I know I'll use this thing 5 times and I've resisted buying one but they look so cool I want one. I love medieval stuff. They're even being campy/mocky and I don't care I want a medieval synth.
- wigster 2y agoi prefer almost medieval. but very nice
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- DidYaWipe 2y agoMedieval what?
- hjnilsson 2y agoWhile I’m not a consumer of this product, I met some of the product designers at the medieval week in Visby, Sweden today. And that the company supports a project like this, which is clearly a passion project, displays joy. After this I think teenage engineering is a great place to work. Not just a SV product factory.