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I miss this so much in chats, even right now when typing this comment. It's too bad that return and enter ended up being the same thing in most applications.

amatecha 2y ago
Yeah, this brought me back to the days of AIM and constantly having a "3" at the end of my messages (and people asking why) because I was pressing the Enter key on the numpad to send my messages (and sometimes accidentally hitting the 3), rather than the Return key which would add a newline into my message! The distinction was actually a good thing, looking back. Can't even guess how many messages I've erroneously sent in recent years when actually trying to jump to a new line in the text I'm drafting...
- icedchai 2y ago
  shift-enter would also work for adding a newline into your messages, IIRC. It still works that way in many apps.
  - amatecha 2y ago
    Often! Then there's Google Sheets, where a new line is Alt-Enter, and pressing Shift-Enter actually bumps you to the vertically-prior cell. haha :(
Sakos 2y ago
Yeah, wish I could still assign it to different hardware keys instead of it being relegated to an implementation detail that differs depending on what application I happen to be using or even which field I have highlighted in a particular application. It's maddening.
cmeacham98 2y ago
Most chat apps that send on enter (ex: Slack, Discord, Element) will accept Shift+Enter to move to the next line.
- Affric 2y ago
  The functionality should be the other way around though. Surely I want the modifier on the irreversible send action?
  - RheingoldRiver 2y ago
    slack very helpfully reverses the order when u are in format-as-code (triple backticks) mode, giving you the worst of both worlds: it's usually enter to send, AND you can get confused about which is which! (there's a preference to turn this off but then I forget if I've turned it off...as with most things, discord does this better & simply prohibits sending when u are inside an unclosed code block)
    - ghshephard 2y ago
      Current version of slack treats Enter identical in both triple-back-tick mode and normal edit mode.
      - arp242 2y ago
        It's a user setting; I'm reasonably sure the default is as the previous poster described it, because I remember having to change it when a new account was set up for me last month (could be mistaken, but reasonably sure-ish I'm not).
        ghshephard 2y ago
        I'd be interested in knowing where that's set up - I'm a member of a large number of Slack Servers from various groups, people, companies - going back to 2017. All of them demonstrate correct ``` behavior.
    - gertlex 2y ago
      Slack and chatgpt behaviors here are regular reminders to me of "using tech still sucks for the [non-nerds]". I'm pretty resilient to these whoopsies and just live with it... Teams does the discord thing mentioned in another comment, helpfully! But I swear getting into code/format blocks in Teams only works sometimes (phase of the moon?) My company's internal GPT changes the ChatGPT enter behavior, which I definitely appreciated the forethought of.
TacticalCoder 2y ago
It's really bad in the default ChatGPT 4o app: I keep posting by mistake my "question" although it's not done yet, so I get non-sensical and slow babbling which I have to interrupt.
apple4ever 2y ago
Yup I miss it to. I remember when Tweetie came along on the Mac and switched the convention. I tried to have the author fix it to no avail.

amatecha 2y ago

Yeah, this brought me back to the days of AIM and constantly having a "3" at the end of my messages (and people asking why) because I was pressing the Enter key on the numpad to send my messages (and sometimes accidentally hitting the 3), rather than the Return key which would add a newline into my message! The distinction was actually a good thing, looking back. Can't even guess how many messages I've erroneously sent in recent years when actually trying to jump to a new line in the text I'm drafting...

icedchai 2y ago
shift-enter would also work for adding a newline into your messages, IIRC. It still works that way in many apps.
- amatecha 2y ago
  Often! Then there's Google Sheets, where a new line is Alt-Enter, and pressing Shift-Enter actually bumps you to the vertically-prior cell. haha :(

Sakos 2y ago

Yeah, wish I could still assign it to different hardware keys instead of it being relegated to an implementation detail that differs depending on what application I happen to be using or even which field I have highlighted in a particular application. It's maddening.

cmeacham98 2y ago

Most chat apps that send on enter (ex: Slack, Discord, Element) will accept Shift+Enter to move to the next line.

Affric 2y ago
The functionality should be the other way around though. Surely I want the modifier on the irreversible send action?
- RheingoldRiver 2y ago
  slack very helpfully reverses the order when u are in format-as-code (triple backticks) mode, giving you the worst of both worlds: it's usually enter to send, AND you can get confused about which is which! (there's a preference to turn this off but then I forget if I've turned it off...as with most things, discord does this better & simply prohibits sending when u are inside an unclosed code block)
  - ghshephard 2y ago
    Current version of slack treats Enter identical in both triple-back-tick mode and normal edit mode.
    - arp242 2y ago
      It's a user setting; I'm reasonably sure the default is as the previous poster described it, because I remember having to change it when a new account was set up for me last month (could be mistaken, but reasonably sure-ish I'm not).
      - ghshephard 2y ago
        I'd be interested in knowing where that's set up - I'm a member of a large number of Slack Servers from various groups, people, companies - going back to 2017. All of them demonstrate correct ``` behavior.
  - gertlex 2y ago
    Slack and chatgpt behaviors here are regular reminders to me of "using tech still sucks for the [non-nerds]". I'm pretty resilient to these whoopsies and just live with it... Teams does the discord thing mentioned in another comment, helpfully! But I swear getting into code/format blocks in Teams only works sometimes (phase of the moon?) My company's internal GPT changes the ChatGPT enter behavior, which I definitely appreciated the forethought of.

TacticalCoder 2y ago

It's really bad in the default ChatGPT 4o app: I keep posting by mistake my "question" although it's not done yet, so I get non-sensical and slow babbling which I have to interrupt.

apple4ever 2y ago

Yup I miss it to. I remember when Tweetie came along on the Mac and switched the convention. I tried to have the author fix it to no avail.