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> Several jurors were crying as they left the courtroom. What's up with this?
by huhtenberg 14y ago
> Several jurors were crying as they left the courtroom.
What's up with this?
- PhrosTT 14y agoI'm assuming it's because they're also punishing 4 children and a wife who were completely innocent.
- grannyg00se 14y agoIt's possible that they were completely innocent, but from the information in the article, that is not guaranteed. Any one of them may have known he was up to no good and silently accepted his actions, or perhaps even encouraged him in some way. It's nicer to think of them as being completely innocent though.
- soupboy 14y agoIf I were sending a 60+ year old man to jail for what could potentially be the rest of his life, maybe I would cry to. A thing to keep in mind is that Mr. Gupta does not come of as an 'evil' person. He has done quite a lot of good in the world too and was and probably still is one of the sharpest minds in the corporate world. Obviously he lost all respect by doing this, but that doesn't mean one does not feel bad seeing a man's reputation and life so thoroughly destroyed by his own greed.
- vecinu 14y agoI think Mr. Gupta's family was also quite hurt by this verdict.
- joering2 14y agoSeriously now? You must be living in some sort of a comic book where people are only good or bad, never inbetween. Its a common thing for people doing evil to feel bad and doing good things to make themselves feel better. Vito Corleone was named "godfather" with a good reason. And following your thinking, one can cry for Adolph Hitler, because: - he overcame chaos in Germany, restored order and enormously raised production in all fields of national economy - he politically united the German nation - he rearmed it militarily - he tried to liquidate the Treaty - he have restored the Reich and the provinces grabbed from Germany in 1919 - he had led millions of deeply unhappy Germans back into the Fatherland .. and so on. Now, would you cry for him? edit: obviously looking back in time, he turned out to be a monster, but at some point he had over 90% approval in ratings.
- damoncali 14y agoThere is a legitimate school of thought that says insider trading is not actually wrong, and should be legal. I don't subscribe to it myself, but "evil" is a very strong word, especially when followed by comparisons to genocidal dictators.
- conanite 14y agoWow - Godwin's Law, in reverse!
- joering2 14y agoThanks! I learnt something new today. Hadn't had any idea I tend to have a Godwin's syndrome... :)
- soupboy 14y agoYour argument is weird. The fact that people are not just good or bad but in between is exactly why I said the jurors felt bad giving this verdict. They saw Gupta as someone who has been close to good most of his life (he was at McKinsey for 40 years without a single blemish on his record!). And then you somehow invert the your own point and say that you should not feel sorry for Gupta because he is apparently evil like Hitler? And none of your points make me personally feel anything good about Hitler. Compare that with Gupta's life and tell me seriously if that is a fair comparison: - orphaned at 18 with very little money - studied hard and ranked 15th in the entire country and got admitted to IIT - Got an MBA from Harvard - Worked at McKinsey till 2011 making to the the post of Managing Director (the first MD of McKinsey from outside US) - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajat_Gupta#Philanthropy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajat_Gupta#Philanthropy] See this Bloomberg article which pretty much says something similar - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-15/in-gupta-jurors-saw-american-dream-and-convicted-anyway.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-15/in-gupta-jurors-saw.... But I sense that we are different people, so arguing further with you will be moot.
- tptacek 14y agoHis wife and daughters were in the courtroom for the verdict, and they did not take it well. Anyone would be shaken by that.