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Don't your police regularly jail people for non-violent speech? I don't see Musk moving to Germany.

by willmadden 2y ago

TurboTveit 2y ago
If by non-violent speech you mean roman salutes or nazi quotes, yes.
- rightbyte 2y ago
  It is more or less enough to in public say why you don't support Likud nowadays to be arrested in Germany.
jeromegv 2y ago
They jail people for antisemitic and nazi speech, if for you this is "non-violent", I have a history lesson on 1939-1945 to show you.
- willmadden 2y ago
  I saw a video of a German activist being hauled off by the police for giving a seminar about censorship the other day. Your country controls speech through force. Like I said, it's highly unlikely Musk would move anything to your country.
  - warkdarrior 2y ago
    > it's highly unlikely Musk would move anything to your country And yet Musk proves you wrong: https://www.tesla.com/giga-berlin https://www.tesla.com/giga-berlin
    - willmadden 2y ago
      Tesla does not operate a social media platform.
  - thomasz 2y ago
    You certainly did not see an activist hauled off by the police for giving a seminar about censorship the other day.
  - lukan 2y ago
    So ... can you link that outrageous video, that we can judge whether it really was the way you said it was?
- peterfirefly 2y ago
  Marie-Thérèse Kaiser. Apparently it is illegal to state that more Afghan refugees in Germany lead to more rapes in Germany. https://freespeechunion.org/young-afd-politician-convicted-for-publishing-gang-rape-statistics-in-connection-with-afghan-migration/ https://freespeechunion.org/young-afd-politician-convicted-f... Björn Höcke. Apparently the slogan "Alles für Deutschland" (Everything for Germany) is strictly verboten because a Nazi organization used it. I didn't know that before the Höcke verdict and I doubt most Germans did. I also very much doubt that it was in any way used as a Nazi reference. Germany's penal code does ban certain non-specified symbols -- which makes a lot sense based on Germany's recent history. Unfortunately, the law is applied extremely selectively and in quite creative ways for opinions that some people just don't like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a Why does Germany pretend Die Linke (The Left -- the renamed East German Communist Party) is a perfectly normal and legal party and at the same time that the perfectly normal and legal (and not very much on the right) party AfD is quasi-Nazi?

Don't your police regularly jail people for non-violent speech? I don't see Musk moving to Germany.

TurboTveit 2y ago

If by non-violent speech you mean roman salutes or nazi quotes, yes.

rightbyte 2y ago
It is more or less enough to in public say why you don't support Likud nowadays to be arrested in Germany.

jeromegv 2y ago

They jail people for antisemitic and nazi speech, if for you this is "non-violent", I have a history lesson on 1939-1945 to show you.

willmadden 2y ago
I saw a video of a German activist being hauled off by the police for giving a seminar about censorship the other day. Your country controls speech through force. Like I said, it's highly unlikely Musk would move anything to your country.
- warkdarrior 2y ago
  > it's highly unlikely Musk would move anything to your country And yet Musk proves you wrong: https://www.tesla.com/giga-berlin https://www.tesla.com/giga-berlin
  - willmadden 2y ago
    Tesla does not operate a social media platform.
- thomasz 2y ago
  You certainly did not see an activist hauled off by the police for giving a seminar about censorship the other day.
- lukan 2y ago
  So ... can you link that outrageous video, that we can judge whether it really was the way you said it was?
peterfirefly 2y ago
Marie-Thérèse Kaiser. Apparently it is illegal to state that more Afghan refugees in Germany lead to more rapes in Germany. https://freespeechunion.org/young-afd-politician-convicted-for-publishing-gang-rape-statistics-in-connection-with-afghan-migration/ https://freespeechunion.org/young-afd-politician-convicted-f... Björn Höcke. Apparently the slogan "Alles für Deutschland" (Everything for Germany) is strictly verboten because a Nazi organization used it. I didn't know that before the Höcke verdict and I doubt most Germans did. I also very much doubt that it was in any way used as a Nazi reference. Germany's penal code does ban certain non-specified symbols -- which makes a lot sense based on Germany's recent history. Unfortunately, the law is applied extremely selectively and in quite creative ways for opinions that some people just don't like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a Why does Germany pretend Die Linke (The Left -- the renamed East German Communist Party) is a perfectly normal and legal party and at the same time that the perfectly normal and legal (and not very much on the right) party AfD is quasi-Nazi?