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McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. When you're renting yourself to authoritarian institutions like corporations, there is no "self

McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. When you're renting yourself to authoritarian institutions like corporations, there is no "self respect" required for you to always take the best deal for yourself whenever possible.

SoftTalker 2y ago
> McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. Yeah but if you show up for your scheduled shifts and are on time, sober, don't steal, and are moderately competent, they won't.
- soulofmischief 2y ago
  The crossover between people with those qualities and the people who find themselves in a position where McDonald's is a good deal is quite small. Often times these people have been failed by society on a number of fronts and have a very different perspective on the arrangement. This isn't to absolve people of personal responsibility, but we are much more of a product of our environment than most of us realize.
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    Those are the minimum expectations for any job. If you can't do those things you will forever be dependent on others to take care of you unless you were born into very fortunate circumstances.
    - beaglesss 2y ago
      I would say stealing is the only of those that would exclude you from any job. Lots of stuff requires intermittent random periods of competence on your own schedule. For instance you could buy a dilapidated house and drunkenly fix it during moments of clarity and make a fat profit. Or fix and flip cars. Really anything involving independently flipping stuff.
      - toast0 2y ago
        That may be a career, but it's not a job. Very few jobs are happy for you to show up whenever, in whatever state you want, with intermittent or stably low competence.
    - soulofmischief 2y ago
      > If you can't do those things you will forever be dependent on others to take care of you Well that is kind of my point. Society, including you and me, has failed these people on so many levels that they lack the most basic ability to function within said society. We can ostracize these people, or we can sympathize with them, take care of them and dismantle this classist service-based economy in favor of one that is more humanistic and kind and provides for as many people as possible. Of course, that isn't going to happen because people need their big macs and coffees.
- wccrawford 2y ago
  And you aren't mouthy with other workers, managers or the customers.
- lostlogin 2y ago
  The have sacked hundreds in recent months, people with decades of experience and a good record. Not front of house people though, the cynic in me says that laying off hundreds of minimum wage earners wouldn’t really alter the bottom line. https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/mcdonalds-lays-off-hundreds-cuts-pay-for-workers/ https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/mcdonalds-lays-off-hundreds-cu...
- southernplaces7 2y ago
  >Yeah but if you show up for your scheduled shifts and are on time, sober, don't steal, and are moderately competent, they won't If labor history in any place where firing is at will should have taught anyone anything, it's that many, many companies, for all kinds of stupid, greedy or sometimes necessary internal reasons do indeed often fire employees in droves despite their rigorously showing up for their scheduled shifts, sober, honest, and competent... What cloud landscape do you live in?
celdon25 2y ago
> in any state FTFY
- lmm 2y ago
  Even just in the US that's not the case in Montana AIUI.

SoftTalker 2y ago

> McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. Yeah but if you show up for your scheduled shifts and are on time, sober, don't steal, and are moderately competent, they won't.

soulofmischief 2y ago
The crossover between people with those qualities and the people who find themselves in a position where McDonald's is a good deal is quite small. Often times these people have been failed by society on a number of fronts and have a very different perspective on the arrangement. This isn't to absolve people of personal responsibility, but we are much more of a product of our environment than most of us realize.
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Those are the minimum expectations for any job. If you can't do those things you will forever be dependent on others to take care of you unless you were born into very fortunate circumstances.
  - beaglesss 2y ago
    I would say stealing is the only of those that would exclude you from any job. Lots of stuff requires intermittent random periods of competence on your own schedule. For instance you could buy a dilapidated house and drunkenly fix it during moments of clarity and make a fat profit. Or fix and flip cars. Really anything involving independently flipping stuff.
    - toast0 2y ago
      That may be a career, but it's not a job. Very few jobs are happy for you to show up whenever, in whatever state you want, with intermittent or stably low competence.
  - soulofmischief 2y ago
    > If you can't do those things you will forever be dependent on others to take care of you Well that is kind of my point. Society, including you and me, has failed these people on so many levels that they lack the most basic ability to function within said society. We can ostracize these people, or we can sympathize with them, take care of them and dismantle this classist service-based economy in favor of one that is more humanistic and kind and provides for as many people as possible. Of course, that isn't going to happen because people need their big macs and coffees.
wccrawford 2y ago
And you aren't mouthy with other workers, managers or the customers.
lostlogin 2y ago
The have sacked hundreds in recent months, people with decades of experience and a good record. Not front of house people though, the cynic in me says that laying off hundreds of minimum wage earners wouldn’t really alter the bottom line. https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/mcdonalds-lays-off-hundreds-cuts-pay-for-workers/ https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/mcdonalds-lays-off-hundreds-cu...
southernplaces7 2y ago
>Yeah but if you show up for your scheduled shifts and are on time, sober, don't steal, and are moderately competent, they won't If labor history in any place where firing is at will should have taught anyone anything, it's that many, many companies, for all kinds of stupid, greedy or sometimes necessary internal reasons do indeed often fire employees in droves despite their rigorously showing up for their scheduled shifts, sober, honest, and competent... What cloud landscape do you live in?

celdon25 2y ago

> in any state FTFY

lmm 2y ago
Even just in the US that's not the case in Montana AIUI.