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>it would not occur to me that "learn language" in a headline should imply that That's because you've been marketed-to by beginner's courses your whole life, p
by djeastm 2y ago
>it would not occur to me that "learn language" in a headline should imply that
That's because you've been marketed-to by beginner's courses your whole life, probably. Like I said, this goes back to things like Rosetta Stone, or Berlitz before that, etc. etc.
They all have done the same business model. Suck people in with the ambiguity of "learn a language" (and all the sweet social capital it will give you!) teach you a few touristy words and phrases without any way of telling you if your pronunciation is way off (AI might help in the future, but it isn't there yet), and happily blow sunshine up your you-know-what about how well you're doing.
If you can't tell, I'm a bit cynical about general audience language apps.
- watwut 2y agoI think that you have unrealistic expectations. Math books have "learn math" on them. Physics books have "learn physics" on them. Drawing books have "learn drawing" on them. You do not expect to be at PhD level after reading them. There is no reason to make exception for language learning. And even there, real life courses have "learn English" or "learn Spanish" on them. Literally none of them can make you fluent. Also, fluency is super far reaching goal. It is absurd as a benchmark. You will reach fluency only after you consumed huge amount of content, wrote a lot of text and spoken with people for hundreds of hours. Which beginner, intermediate or advanced resources you learned on the way does not matter much. > If you can't tell, I'm a bit cynical about general audience language apps. I learned two foreign languages up to fluency - enough to be able to use them in work, life, internet, to converse with people, use them to learn new things.