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Sometimes companies are so big the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Maybe the legal department is overeager but the PR team would never had

Sometimes companies are so big the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Maybe the legal department is overeager but the PR team would never had let this happen, given the chance.

namuol 2y ago
Indeed. It (further) begs the question: Should we depend so heavily on such corporations to protect our infrastructure?
packetlost 2y ago
idk, the DMCA has done an immense amount of damage to society because of what amounts to bullying from those with large legal departments. I usually err on the side of blaming incompetence, but a well-run legal department should know this is a bogus claim.
rangerelf 2y ago
If it were possible to sink your teeth into them and extract enough cash such that it would sting, things like this wouldn't happen. It's only because it costs them exactly zero dollars and cents that they feel they can get away with bullying anyone they want.
- bornfreddy 2y ago
  It does cost them, actually, but they will not be able to measure it. Though they didn't have much good will and trust to start with. I'm more surprised by how CF is handling this. They seemed like the "good guys" (for the Big Tech anyway) so this is not how I would expect them to handle the situation.
  - badsectoracula 2y ago
    > They seemed like the "good guys" (for the Big Tech anyway) There was a time when Google was seen as the tech heroes of the Internet.
alex_lav 2y ago
A company being too large to be competent is maybe not the excuse you think it is.
- usefulcat 2y ago
  An excuse, no, but maybe an explanation.
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phone8675309 2y ago
Every time one of these cases comes up, everyone wants to blame "bad apples in the legal department", but newsflash, the legal department aren't a bunch of cowboys that just run wild and do whatever they want - they often require the approval of someone higher up in the company to commence action. Stop this. Stop letting companies you like off the hook by compartmentalizing the things you don't like to "the guys in the legal department".
akira2501 2y ago
> Sometimes companies are so big the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing So it's really amazing, then, that they somehow remain profitable and in business. It's interesting that their "largeness" only seems to create problems for their customers and never for themselves. Meanwhile if you have a company that's too large to reasonably coordinate, then you shouldn't be allowed to exist, as you're effectively admitting you don't actually exercise any authority over the business.
whateveracct 2y ago
> Sometimes companies are so big the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Some companies are just disfunctional, yeah.
deathanatos 2y ago
We shouldn't permit corporations to abdicate responsibility like this.

Sometimes companies are so big the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Maybe the legal department is overeager but the PR team would never had let this happen, given the chance.

namuol 2y ago

Indeed. It (further) begs the question: Should we depend so heavily on such corporations to protect our infrastructure?

packetlost 2y ago

idk, the DMCA has done an immense amount of damage to society because of what amounts to bullying from those with large legal departments. I usually err on the side of blaming incompetence, but a well-run legal department should know this is a bogus claim.

rangerelf 2y ago

If it were possible to sink your teeth into them and extract enough cash such that it would sting, things like this wouldn't happen. It's only because it costs them exactly zero dollars and cents that they feel they can get away with bullying anyone they want.

bornfreddy 2y ago
It does cost them, actually, but they will not be able to measure it. Though they didn't have much good will and trust to start with. I'm more surprised by how CF is handling this. They seemed like the "good guys" (for the Big Tech anyway) so this is not how I would expect them to handle the situation.
- badsectoracula 2y ago
  > They seemed like the "good guys" (for the Big Tech anyway) There was a time when Google was seen as the tech heroes of the Internet.

alex_lav 2y ago

A company being too large to be competent is maybe not the excuse you think it is.

usefulcat 2y ago
An excuse, no, but maybe an explanation.

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phone8675309 2y ago

Every time one of these cases comes up, everyone wants to blame "bad apples in the legal department", but newsflash, the legal department aren't a bunch of cowboys that just run wild and do whatever they want - they often require the approval of someone higher up in the company to commence action. Stop this. Stop letting companies you like off the hook by compartmentalizing the things you don't like to "the guys in the legal department".

akira2501 2y ago

> Sometimes companies are so big the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing So it's really amazing, then, that they somehow remain profitable and in business. It's interesting that their "largeness" only seems to create problems for their customers and never for themselves. Meanwhile if you have a company that's too large to reasonably coordinate, then you shouldn't be allowed to exist, as you're effectively admitting you don't actually exercise any authority over the business.

whateveracct 2y ago

> Sometimes companies are so big the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Some companies are just disfunctional, yeah.

deathanatos 2y ago

We shouldn't permit corporations to abdicate responsibility like this.