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At the bottom: >Acknowledgements Structured Outputs takes inspiration from excellent work from the open source community: namely, the outlines, jsonformer, ins
by leetharris 2y ago
At the bottom:
>Acknowledgements
Structured Outputs takes inspiration from excellent work from the open source community: namely, the outlines, jsonformer, instructor, guidance, and lark libraries.
It is cool to see them acknowledge this, but it's also lame for a company named "OpenAI" to acknowledge getting their ideas from open source, then contributing absolutely NOTHING back to open source with their own implementation.
- warkdarrior 2y ago> it's also lame for a company named "OpenAI" to acknowledge getting their ideas from open source, then contributing absolutely NOTHING back to open source with their own implementation Maybe those projects were used as-is by OpenAI, so there was nothing new to contribute.
- reustle 2y agoI think they may be alluding to sponsorships as well as code contributions. i.e. https://github.com/sponsors/jxnl https://github.com/sponsors/jxnl
- spencerchubb 2y agoIs offering gpt4o for free through chatgpt not enough of a contribution? They didn't release source code, but they made a product free to use
- mplewis 2y agoNo. If it were free you'd be able to use it as a programming API. It's not free and it's not unlimited - it's a time-limited marketing tool.
- spencerchubb 2y agoHow are you defining the word free?
- talldayo 2y agoFree service != Open software
- notarobot123 2y agoThis isn't generosity, it's a well known and much used strategy for market penetration. Free until-we-decide-otherwise is very much not the same as open source.
- rvense 2y agoIn so far as it is a conscious strategy to make it more expensive at a later data, it is actually sort of the opposite of generosity.
- spencerchubb 2y agoSo if something is free but only temporarily, then that cancels out the generosity? Also, you and I have no idea how long the features will remain free. If anything, chatgpt has been making more features and stronger models free over time.
- simonw 2y agoSometimes it does, yeah. It's not unheard of for companies to deliberately operate at a loss in order to drive out their competition, then raise prices again. This is known as "predatory pricing".
- echelon 2y agoThat can actually make competition from open source harder. New upstarts that are open source can't compete with free service from OpenAI and can't make money to grow their development or offerings. OpenAI wants to kill everything that isn't OpenAI.
- ben_w 2y agoNew open source models* still wouldn't be able to compete even if OpenAI was forcibly shut down. Hardware's too expensive, and will be for a while, because all the big players are trying to get in on it. * cue arguments: "'open weights' or training data'?"; "does the Meta offering count or are they being sneaky and evil?"; etc.
- spencerchubb 2y agoSo should OpenAI make their product less accessible, in order to make it easier for competition? That makes no sense
- oblio 2y agoI call chicken. Let them make all their products paid. Hint: they won't, it would kill their company. The hype around OpenAI is based on people using it for free, at least at the start. Heck, even drug dealers know this trick!
- sirspacey 2y agoYou don’t anyone will use it to contribute to open source projects? Seems like an obvious net gain for the community.
- g15jv2dp 2y agoIf you're unhappy about people using your work without compensating you or contributing back, don't release your work as free software. You can't have your cake and eat it too...