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I love how you blame the stores rather than the criminals and the government that turns a blind eye towards theft. If we had a culture that scandalized theft,
by monero-xmr 2y ago
I love how you blame the stores rather than the criminals and the government that turns a blind eye towards theft.
If we had a culture that scandalized theft, and a justice system that penalized such behavior with real teeth, then goods wouldn't have to be locked up and "customers" treated with suspicion.
I will never stop being amazed by the ability of "smart" people to be so illogical
- steveBK123 2y agoto me this stuff is one more sign of transitioning to a low trust society, and all the downsides that come with it
- monero-xmr 2y agoA high trust society would be re-established if basic stuff like theft was prosecuted and children didn’t have to walk over drooling zombie drug addicts on their way to school
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y agoNYC is one of the safest cities in the country.
- monero-xmr 2y agoAnd if you don't care about shoplifting, then expect all of the stores to lock up their goods, or close outright
- AlbertCory 2y agoThanks to Giuliani and Bloomberg, but the progressives are busily undoing everything they did. Wait 5 years.
- pclmulqdq 2y agoThat's what a biased set of statistics says. In reality, NYC residents rarely bother to report crime (they know the police will do nothing), so it doesn't show up in the statistics. In those "dangerous" small towns, every single crime gets reported.
- dml2135 2y agoA large part of it is the transition from small local businesses to faceless corporate chains. I care if my local, family-run pharmacy gets robbed. If someone steals from some corporate behemoth, one that treats me like a criminal regardless of whether I steal from them or not, well, what do I care?
- monero-xmr 2y agoThat's the exact problem. You only seem to care about property rights if the direct owner is your neighbor. I simply find stealing to be wrong. The societal restrictions and penalties on theft are ancient. If can't all agree that stealing is wrong, what hope does society have
- steveBK123 2y agoSelective enforcement of law based on moral preferences leads to bad places. What if its a local owner but you met the guy and think he is a jerk? What if he votes differently than you like? Do you think the various groups committing robbery care who owns the store, and if so, care in the same way as you? Would they stop if the pharmacy became locally owned? Would they give up shoplifting if there were no big box stores nearby?
- underlipton 2y ago>Selective enforcement of law based on moral preferences leads to bad places. Maybe go after wage theft and employment discrimination? It's strange to me that people think that the source of "low trust" is the people with rather less power in society, versus the people with more. Most people begin life more than willing to trust. It's when someone who is supposed to be looking out for them betrays that trust that they become embittered.
- steveBK123 2y agoGo after those too, yes! That's the idea.
- monero-xmr 2y ago
- pclmulqdq 2y agoI didn't say why it happens. I just wanted to avoid the controversy that you (collectively, the responders) gave me anyway. Personally, I agree with you that this is a response to theft and the brazen disregard of law enforcement. I now live in a smaller city that takes theft very seriously and almost nothing is locked up.