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> heaven being in "the same place" as we are now > I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. I don't see how this impl

> heaven being in "the same place" as we are now > I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. I don't see how this implies heaven being in "the same place" as we are now. I also don't see how our bodies can be made perfect but only if we don't burn them up first. Seems like a major limitation of God's infinite power if he can take someone that's nothing but bones and make them perfect but someone who is a pile of ash is just too difficult.

rpmisms 2y ago
Here's my answer to this from another comment > It's not about what God can or cannot do, it's about treating the body with the honor due as a member of the Body of Christ. Someone who is burned to death does not die at a disadvantage at the last judgement.
- vel0city 2y ago
  So having care in the process of burning the body and honoring the cremains isn't treating the body with the honor due but putting someone in a pine box and burying them in the dirt to be eaten by worms and "leach corpse juice into a water table" is treating the body with the honor due? How is burying more honorable than cremation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF6IShnqPY0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF6IShnqPY0
  - rpmisms 2y ago
    Because burning a body is inherently disgusting. Try it with a small animal, see how it is. Commiting someone to the earth is far less awful, far more natural, and just generally better. In concept, cremation is lovely. In practice, you need a bone grinder, a cremation chamber that requires you to break the femurs of the dearly departed to fit them inside, and massive filtration to prevent the entire area from smelling of burnt corpse. Burial requires a box.
    - vel0city 2y ago
      And rotting in a box "leaking corpse juice" isn't disgusting. Try it with a small animal, see how it is. Honestly though, I can't really try it with a small animal as I don't have a cremation retort capable of reaching the ~1,500-2,000F that are common on actual cremation retorts. I don't know what kind of oven you rock in your kitchen but mine tops out ~500F.

rpmisms 2y ago

Here's my answer to this from another comment > It's not about what God can or cannot do, it's about treating the body with the honor due as a member of the Body of Christ. Someone who is burned to death does not die at a disadvantage at the last judgement.

vel0city 2y ago
So having care in the process of burning the body and honoring the cremains isn't treating the body with the honor due but putting someone in a pine box and burying them in the dirt to be eaten by worms and "leach corpse juice into a water table" is treating the body with the honor due? How is burying more honorable than cremation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF6IShnqPY0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF6IShnqPY0
- rpmisms 2y ago
  Because burning a body is inherently disgusting. Try it with a small animal, see how it is. Commiting someone to the earth is far less awful, far more natural, and just generally better. In concept, cremation is lovely. In practice, you need a bone grinder, a cremation chamber that requires you to break the femurs of the dearly departed to fit them inside, and massive filtration to prevent the entire area from smelling of burnt corpse. Burial requires a box.
  - vel0city 2y ago
    And rotting in a box "leaking corpse juice" isn't disgusting. Try it with a small animal, see how it is. Honestly though, I can't really try it with a small animal as I don't have a cremation retort capable of reaching the ~1,500-2,000F that are common on actual cremation retorts. I don't know what kind of oven you rock in your kitchen but mine tops out ~500F.