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From the outside looking in, it's not at all clear what the tool is trying to solve. What exactly is made "easier"..? What does it do that ssh doesn't? Who is t

From the outside looking in, it's not at all clear what the tool is trying to solve. What exactly is made "easier"..? What does it do that ssh doesn't? Who is this for? Many questions...

nkotov 2y ago
If you're managing a ton of servers manually, this makes a lot of sense.
- cyberpunk 2y ago
  If you’re managing a ton of servers you are already using ansible or packer or salt or something.
  - dawnerd 2y ago
    You’d be surprised… a lot of especially legacy setups are very duct-taped together. Heck recently as last year I needed a three machine cluster and just did it manually instead of ansible. I could definitely see the use of a tool like this if it was fleshed out a bit more.
    - slt2021 2y ago
      https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F5r9zpjy2y40c1.jpg https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F5...
  - gunapologist99 2y ago
    (Or Userify installed with Ansible..)
- fellerts 2y ago
  ~/.ssh/config is perfectly fine for that.
  - samstave 2y ago
    Nope. I've used linux since the 1990s. Was friends with the founders of LinuxCare, met Torvalds. blah blah blah... Since semi-retire from ops... and basically using windows for a few years without need to manage a linux box, youd be FN surprised how quickly basic knowledge evaporate at my age when not in use. I had to fn lookup how to add my keys to a box again. (After a 3-month long panel-interview with Google's Net Eng Team back in the day - my final panel question was: "OK how do you do a global search and replace in VI?" I *blanked* -- and I stated... "UH.... I'cant recall - id just google it" They all laughed. --- @OP -- look at the remote SSH extension in VSCode/Positron etc... Its a really good little file/function/SSH manager. Though Ill take a look at this.
    - jbstack 2y ago
      If the issue is forgetting basic commands / configuration options then how does swapping one tool for another help? You'll just forget how to use the second tool instead.
      - GTP 2y ago
        The second tool could be more user friendly, thus easier to remember how to use it. Compare how this tool makes you generate a key vs the syntax of ssh-keygen.
    - yodelshady 2y ago
      Worth a chuckle from me too. I could and do type that all day, muscle memory. Verbalize it? Not a chance. There's a % in there somewhere. There does seem to be a subset of questions that are really just "have you repeatedly used this tool in the last few months?". If you have, you'll probably be fast.
scrappyjoe 2y ago
Three things I can see. Yes, I know these are achieved by using .ssh/config etc, I am just answering as a public service. 1. It links up addresses to host names so that you don’t have to remember ip addresses of servers. 2. It makes it easy to create keys and attach those keys to particular hosts, so reduces the effort required to separate keys depending on your host 3. It makes key rotation fairly easy 4. It replaces the ssh command syntax with a k8s or docker-like syntax for executing remote commands or entering a shell. So I suppose you don’t need to context switch?
- insaneirish 2y ago
  > It links up addresses to host names so that you don’t have to remember ip addresses of servers. Um.
  - felbane 2y ago
    Just imagine that DNS doesn't exist. Or hosts files. Or `~/.ssh/config`...
    - ozim 2y ago
      Well I can imagine working in a cheapo shop where you cannot have public technical domain or setting up DNS is "too much to spend on". But hostfile well if you have to share it with 2-3 other people might be a hassle?
      - usrbinbash 2y ago
        That's why ssh config allows setting up alias names for servers.

From the outside looking in, it's not at all clear what the tool is trying to solve. What exactly is made "easier"..? What does it do that ssh doesn't? Who is this for? Many questions...

nkotov 2y ago

If you're managing a ton of servers manually, this makes a lot of sense.

cyberpunk 2y ago
If you’re managing a ton of servers you are already using ansible or packer or salt or something.
- dawnerd 2y ago
  You’d be surprised… a lot of especially legacy setups are very duct-taped together. Heck recently as last year I needed a three machine cluster and just did it manually instead of ansible. I could definitely see the use of a tool like this if it was fleshed out a bit more.
  - slt2021 2y ago
    https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F5r9zpjy2y40c1.jpg https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F5...
- gunapologist99 2y ago
  (Or Userify installed with Ansible..)
fellerts 2y ago
~/.ssh/config is perfectly fine for that.
- samstave 2y ago
  Nope. I've used linux since the 1990s. Was friends with the founders of LinuxCare, met Torvalds. blah blah blah... Since semi-retire from ops... and basically using windows for a few years without need to manage a linux box, youd be FN surprised how quickly basic knowledge evaporate at my age when not in use. I had to fn lookup how to add my keys to a box again. (After a 3-month long panel-interview with Google's Net Eng Team back in the day - my final panel question was: "OK how do you do a global search and replace in VI?" I *blanked* -- and I stated... "UH.... I'cant recall - id just google it" They all laughed. --- @OP -- look at the remote SSH extension in VSCode/Positron etc... Its a really good little file/function/SSH manager. Though Ill take a look at this.
  - jbstack 2y ago
    If the issue is forgetting basic commands / configuration options then how does swapping one tool for another help? You'll just forget how to use the second tool instead.
    - GTP 2y ago
      The second tool could be more user friendly, thus easier to remember how to use it. Compare how this tool makes you generate a key vs the syntax of ssh-keygen.
  - yodelshady 2y ago
    Worth a chuckle from me too. I could and do type that all day, muscle memory. Verbalize it? Not a chance. There's a % in there somewhere. There does seem to be a subset of questions that are really just "have you repeatedly used this tool in the last few months?". If you have, you'll probably be fast.

scrappyjoe 2y ago

Three things I can see. Yes, I know these are achieved by using .ssh/config etc, I am just answering as a public service. 1. It links up addresses to host names so that you don’t have to remember ip addresses of servers. 2. It makes it easy to create keys and attach those keys to particular hosts, so reduces the effort required to separate keys depending on your host 3. It makes key rotation fairly easy 4. It replaces the ssh command syntax with a k8s or docker-like syntax for executing remote commands or entering a shell. So I suppose you don’t need to context switch?

insaneirish 2y ago
> It links up addresses to host names so that you don’t have to remember ip addresses of servers. Um.
- felbane 2y ago
  Just imagine that DNS doesn't exist. Or hosts files. Or `~/.ssh/config`...
  - ozim 2y ago
    Well I can imagine working in a cheapo shop where you cannot have public technical domain or setting up DNS is "too much to spend on". But hostfile well if you have to share it with 2-3 other people might be a hassle?
    - usrbinbash 2y ago
      That's why ssh config allows setting up alias names for servers.