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Good for him, seems like OpenAI is moving towards a business model of profitability, and Anthropic seems to be more aligned with the original goals of OpenAI.

Good for him, seems like OpenAI is moving towards a business model of profitability, and Anthropic seems to be more aligned with the original goals of OpenAI. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next few years. It strikes me that OpenAI is better funded, though, and that AI (at their scale) is super expensive. How does Anthropic deal with this? How are they funding their operations? Edit: just looked it up, looks like they have a $4B investment from Amazon and a $2B investment from Google, which should be sufficient (I’m going to assume these are cloud credits). https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/27/amazon-doubles-down-on-anthropic-completing-its-planned-4b-investment/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/27/amazon-doubles-down-on-ant... https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-agrees-invest-up-2-bln-openai-rival-anthropic-wsj-2023-10-27/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-agrees-invest-up-2...

bamboozled 2y ago
Good for him, seems like OpenAI is moving towards a business model of profitability, and Anthropic seems to be more aligned with the original goals of OpenAI. What is open about Anthropic ?
- imadj 2y ago
  >> Anthropic seems to be more aligned with the original goals of OpenAI. > What is open about Anthropic ? OpenAI's radical mission drift to the opposite extreme, made other companies look relatively closer to its own original goal than itself. From OpenAI's original announcement[1]: > Our goal is to advance digital intelligence in the way that is most likely to benefit humanity as a whole, unconstrained by a need to generate financial return > Researchers will be strongly encouraged to publish their work, whether as papers, blog posts, or code, and our patents (if any) will be shared with the world. But ever since the ChatGPT craze, OpenAI ironically got completely consumed by capitalizing on financial return. They now appear quite unprincipled as if they see nothing but dollar signs and market dominance, which made Meta, Anthropic, even Google, look more rational and healthy by comparison. These companies are publishing research papers, open models, contributing more to the ecosystem and overall appear to be more mindful and conservative when it comes to the ethical and societal impact. [1] - https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai/ https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai/
  - Hrun0 2y ago
    You didn't answer the question.
- resource_waste 2y ago
  I'm with you. Closed, Puritan models.
  - bamboozled 2y ago
    It was actually a serious and open question, but I can see, given the hypocrisy found in a lot of these self-proclaimed "open AI" companies, how it would come across like I was refuting something ;)
daghamm 2y ago
Anthropic has more limits on their free services, and even paid services have a cap that changes depending on current load. They are not burning VC money at the rate other AI companies at this size do. I think they are more profitable than openai.

bamboozled 2y ago

Good for him, seems like OpenAI is moving towards a business model of profitability, and Anthropic seems to be more aligned with the original goals of OpenAI. What is open about Anthropic ?

imadj 2y ago
>> Anthropic seems to be more aligned with the original goals of OpenAI. > What is open about Anthropic ? OpenAI's radical mission drift to the opposite extreme, made other companies look relatively closer to its own original goal than itself. From OpenAI's original announcement[1]: > Our goal is to advance digital intelligence in the way that is most likely to benefit humanity as a whole, unconstrained by a need to generate financial return > Researchers will be strongly encouraged to publish their work, whether as papers, blog posts, or code, and our patents (if any) will be shared with the world. But ever since the ChatGPT craze, OpenAI ironically got completely consumed by capitalizing on financial return. They now appear quite unprincipled as if they see nothing but dollar signs and market dominance, which made Meta, Anthropic, even Google, look more rational and healthy by comparison. These companies are publishing research papers, open models, contributing more to the ecosystem and overall appear to be more mindful and conservative when it comes to the ethical and societal impact. [1] - https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai/ https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai/
- Hrun0 2y ago
  You didn't answer the question.
resource_waste 2y ago
I'm with you. Closed, Puritan models.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  It was actually a serious and open question, but I can see, given the hypocrisy found in a lot of these self-proclaimed "open AI" companies, how it would come across like I was refuting something ;)

daghamm 2y ago

Anthropic has more limits on their free services, and even paid services have a cap that changes depending on current load. They are not burning VC money at the rate other AI companies at this size do. I think they are more profitable than openai.