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You could consider getting some help for that anxiety.

by toenail 2y ago

thinkingtoilet 2y ago
Is he wrong? We're clearly destroying the planet.
- toenail 2y ago
  Yes, there is no evidence we will "burn". An increase in temperature does not ignite the planet.
  - thinkingtoilet 2y ago
    I think it was metaphorical.
    - pfdietz 2y ago
      It was emotional manipulation in place of reasoned argument.
      - 1over137 2y ago
        The reasoned arguments are well known and have been for decades. Humans are not all that reasoned; emotional argument is often called for.
  - dubcanada 2y ago
    I mean you're kind of being a bit silly. I don't think OP is saying we will spontaneously catch on fire and die. I think they are suggesting that vegetation which can only support a certain amount of heat and no water will parish. Also funny enough we can only support a certain amount of heat and no water. It is pretty apparent that we are going to have water problems in the coming decades. You don't need to be a scientist to put those two together. I am not saying we can't fix it, I do not hold the same outlook as OP. But we will have problems. Even if you don't believe global warming, there is obvious signs of issues popping up with water, and heat. Mexico, parts of USA, Canada, etc limiting water usage and saying they'll run out if it doesn't rain. That will be a problem.
- pfdietz 2y ago
  I don't think that's clear at all. There's damage being done, and ameliorating or avoiding that is sensible, but "destroying" is quite an exaggeration.
  - Matumio 2y ago
    The question is when you consider planet Earth "destroyed". Most likely it will remain blue and keep its atmosphere. Life will continue. It could be "destroyed" in the sense that humans sustainably sabotage their own long-term survival, or the survival of other species. Short of a nuclear war, I don't think humanity will get close to extinction. But I think we are on a path to lose access to today's cultural knowledge (like microchips, vaccines, aviation). If the population is forced to shrink over the next couple of centuries, wars over fertile ground seem more likely than specialized global supply chains.
MrVandemar 2y ago
The last stage of grieving is acceptance. I'm sitting in a comfy airchair, drinking tea, and enjoying life while it is still possible. And in spite of all common sense, spending a lot of time and money planting trees and bushes, as I have done since 2010.

You could consider getting some help for that anxiety.

thinkingtoilet 2y ago

Is he wrong? We're clearly destroying the planet.

toenail 2y ago
Yes, there is no evidence we will "burn". An increase in temperature does not ignite the planet.
- thinkingtoilet 2y ago
  I think it was metaphorical.
  - pfdietz 2y ago
    It was emotional manipulation in place of reasoned argument.
    - 1over137 2y ago
      The reasoned arguments are well known and have been for decades. Humans are not all that reasoned; emotional argument is often called for.
- dubcanada 2y ago
  I mean you're kind of being a bit silly. I don't think OP is saying we will spontaneously catch on fire and die. I think they are suggesting that vegetation which can only support a certain amount of heat and no water will parish. Also funny enough we can only support a certain amount of heat and no water. It is pretty apparent that we are going to have water problems in the coming decades. You don't need to be a scientist to put those two together. I am not saying we can't fix it, I do not hold the same outlook as OP. But we will have problems. Even if you don't believe global warming, there is obvious signs of issues popping up with water, and heat. Mexico, parts of USA, Canada, etc limiting water usage and saying they'll run out if it doesn't rain. That will be a problem.
pfdietz 2y ago
I don't think that's clear at all. There's damage being done, and ameliorating or avoiding that is sensible, but "destroying" is quite an exaggeration.
- Matumio 2y ago
  The question is when you consider planet Earth "destroyed". Most likely it will remain blue and keep its atmosphere. Life will continue. It could be "destroyed" in the sense that humans sustainably sabotage their own long-term survival, or the survival of other species. Short of a nuclear war, I don't think humanity will get close to extinction. But I think we are on a path to lose access to today's cultural knowledge (like microchips, vaccines, aviation). If the population is forced to shrink over the next couple of centuries, wars over fertile ground seem more likely than specialized global supply chains.

MrVandemar 2y ago

The last stage of grieving is acceptance. I'm sitting in a comfy airchair, drinking tea, and enjoying life while it is still possible. And in spite of all common sense, spending a lot of time and money planting trees and bushes, as I have done since 2010.