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Maduro lost election, tallies collected by Venezuela's opposition show
- bitsig 2y agohttps://archive.is/zcQQ6 https://archive.is/zcQQ6
- personjerry 2y ago[flagged]
- warkdarrior 2y agoWeapons manufactuters
- boppo1 2y agoWhy
- Bromeo 2y agoI find this comment to be very tone-deaf. Are you interested in buying stocks to support Venezuelan companies, or are you purely trying to make a quick buck off of the backs of Venezuelan people trying to prevent their country from being a dictatorship?
- personjerry 2y agoI don't understand, if I think something is going to do well am I not allowed to invest in it? Isn't that the whole point of investing? Where is the misalignment here?
- stvltvs 2y agoIt comes across as crass to profit off a country's turmoil. Happens all the time, but that it's someone's first thought rubs the wrong way.
- pjkundert 2y ago[flagged]
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- dllthomas 2y agoI'm highly sympathetic to claims that voting machines might have rigged an election (deliberately or through error) up until a hand recount matches the machine total. In this case, I believe the claim is that the reported numbers don't even match what the machines printed out. There's a lot of room for distinguishing these, even through the fog of uncertainty in any developing story.
- mikeyouse 2y agoWell the election in the US was won by the person who received the most votes while the one in Venezuela was claimed to be won by the person who received fewer votes. Hope that helps.
- dllthomas 2y agoBoth elections were claimed to be won by the person who received fewer votes, regardless of who you believe won either of them.
- pjkundert 2y agoHmmm. You sound very sure of this... Why don't you trust the output of the voting machines in this case, but do trust it in the prior case? In both cases, there are reports of numerical anomalies that are claimed to be statistically unlikely. One elicits calls for validation, the other elicits claims of "election denialism" for similar requests. Strange.
- gnabgib 2y agoRelated Suspicious data pattern in recent Venezuelan election (901 points, 5 days ago, 466 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41123155 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41123155
- gus_massa 2y agoNote that this is very different. In the other post, I blame some idiot that took the rounded percents numbers and used proportionality to get the totals. An evil fraudster will try to make up numbers for each province and county and get total numbers for each party. They can even let the opposition win in some states were it obvious the will win and compensate winning all the other states. In this post, the difference can only be explained if one side is lying, (un)rounding error can't fix it.
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- rgreeko420 2y agoFrom the same paper that reported credulously on Havana Syndrome and Iraqi WMDs
- readthenotes1 2y agoAnd a few others. However, even a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and again. If their editors allow it.
- culi 2y agoSure, but the CNE has turned over its election data to the supreme court and the US State Department said the US had not recognized González as president–a departure from a previous position assumed by Secretary Blinken. https://x.com/ReporteYa/status/1820603977668399588 https://x.com/ReporteYa/status/1820603977668399588 Also this routine dance happens basically every election of a South American country with really important resources they don't want stolen by US corporations (see: Bolivia, all previous Venezuela elections, etc)
- GreatLdisisp88 2y agoTake this with grain of salt. After seeing how American did 2020 election with so many centurians that would put Japanese to shame and chasing out observers with lots of luggage votes, I am disinclined to read anything about democracy by American media, especially WAPO.
- xenospn 2y agoHuh? Luggage votes?
- kthejoker2 2y agoLuggage votes? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, my friend. Please provide some.
- tharmas 2y agoHere here.