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after awhile the market will adjust and you'll wind up with more options near home, in your neighborhood, instead of downtown. sounds like a win to me

ghaff 2y ago
I'm not sure how true that is. I live in a Boston exurb--OK, adjacent to a small 40K person city--and there's been no particular renaissance of local eating places. Just the usual mostly takeout and people presumably eating at home.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  I take the contrarian position, that the market won't adjust and intentional effort needs to be put into holding on to these experiences through marketing, pricing, etc. WFH/remote are very important for providing workers flexibility and freedom with high value, but so is preserving experiences even if folks must travel to them. I work remote so that I can explore (because lifetime is finite and there is so too much to see, and too much to do) while still providing value and collecting some freedom tokens, and there is an objective loss when these experiences sunset or evaporate. Jim Haynes comes to mind. How to preserve these experiences for future explorers, I leave up to folks smarter and more determined than I, but I do have freedom tokens to spend with them. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-55703174 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-55703174
  - ghaff 2y ago
    I'm not sure what you're arguing. If I want to see good theatre and eat at good restaurants I mostly have to travel to them, maybe a modest distance but certainly not a few minutes. I don't reasonably expect to access them--for the most part, although there's some good music near me especially in the summer--around where I live.
    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      Yeah, that's fair, apologies my thought was half baked. I think its really a story about places we want to cultivate, where we can cultivate those places, and who can make a go of it in a changing world where locality is not as rigid as it once was. One of the places I dwell part of the year is within walking distance (5-10 minutes) of amazing authentic restaurants (Indian, Mexican, Bolivian, etc), a world class art center and theater, more than one college campus. The urban core of this town can support these businesses and experiences without a whole lot of intention, because of the local population and that somewhat static demand. In the cases of this restaurant, at an observatory, it takes a lot more effort to keep it running as an ongoing concern (as a destination experience), but those businesses and experiences are valuable too. How to keep them going (so we collectively continue to enjoy and experience) merits more understanding, imho, and patrons must be ready to spend to provide support. Again, I apologize for not cohesively expressing the thought initially, I hope this follow up has made the idea more cogent.
pintxo 2y ago
Not necessarily, in the end, customer-density might be to low on both sides to maintain a restaurant.

ghaff 2y ago

I'm not sure how true that is. I live in a Boston exurb--OK, adjacent to a small 40K person city--and there's been no particular renaissance of local eating places. Just the usual mostly takeout and people presumably eating at home.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
I take the contrarian position, that the market won't adjust and intentional effort needs to be put into holding on to these experiences through marketing, pricing, etc. WFH/remote are very important for providing workers flexibility and freedom with high value, but so is preserving experiences even if folks must travel to them. I work remote so that I can explore (because lifetime is finite and there is so too much to see, and too much to do) while still providing value and collecting some freedom tokens, and there is an objective loss when these experiences sunset or evaporate. Jim Haynes comes to mind. How to preserve these experiences for future explorers, I leave up to folks smarter and more determined than I, but I do have freedom tokens to spend with them. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-55703174 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-55703174
- ghaff 2y ago
  I'm not sure what you're arguing. If I want to see good theatre and eat at good restaurants I mostly have to travel to them, maybe a modest distance but certainly not a few minutes. I don't reasonably expect to access them--for the most part, although there's some good music near me especially in the summer--around where I live.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Yeah, that's fair, apologies my thought was half baked. I think its really a story about places we want to cultivate, where we can cultivate those places, and who can make a go of it in a changing world where locality is not as rigid as it once was. One of the places I dwell part of the year is within walking distance (5-10 minutes) of amazing authentic restaurants (Indian, Mexican, Bolivian, etc), a world class art center and theater, more than one college campus. The urban core of this town can support these businesses and experiences without a whole lot of intention, because of the local population and that somewhat static demand. In the cases of this restaurant, at an observatory, it takes a lot more effort to keep it running as an ongoing concern (as a destination experience), but those businesses and experiences are valuable too. How to keep them going (so we collectively continue to enjoy and experience) merits more understanding, imho, and patrons must be ready to spend to provide support. Again, I apologize for not cohesively expressing the thought initially, I hope this follow up has made the idea more cogent.

pintxo 2y ago

Not necessarily, in the end, customer-density might be to low on both sides to maintain a restaurant.