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Such a classist comment

by tennisflyi 2y ago

sandspar 2y ago
Guy who makes $200,000 a year is aghast that some people actually work at McDonald's
- _xiaz 2y ago
  In our little IT bubble where 3+ interviews are the norm, it's fine to envy the straightforward hiring in food-service. Ofc we still got the better deal overall and should only complain in hush tones
- bluGill 2y ago
  I'm haven't worked at McDonalds for 20+ years, but I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k - it goes down fast below that though. I'm reasonable sure that if I had stayed at McDonalds I'd have never had a year where I made less than I made in tech. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be out, but they pay those they care about well enough, and there were some good things I miss.
  - bumby 2y ago
    >I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k Curious what this range is based on? According to ~3.8k self-reported salaries from Glassdoor, the McD manager salary ranges from $37k-$64k with a median of $48k.
    - celdon25 2y ago
      I don’t like to speculate but I could imagine managers at some franchises receiving a bonus based on profits or sales.
    - bluGill 2y ago
      The top manager. The shift managers make about that, but the top managers who mostly do paperwork and are rarely seen on the floor do better.
      - bumby 2y ago
        Does each store have multiple managers like that or is this equivalent to someone who manages a region of stores? I've worked fast-food in the past as a run-of-the-mill front line worker and wasn't aware of such a position (although that doesn't mean it doesn't exist). Particularly for the franchisees who own a single store, I'm not sure that is economically viable.
        bluGill 2y ago
        The franchise that owns a single store that is a bit less than what the owner will make (doing a lot of work in the store). Where the company owns the store that is what the top manager makes (from what I can tell the company makes about the same from a franchise or an owned store). Where the franchise owns multiple stores their income depends mostly on how much of the store work they do - but it isn't really possible to manager more than one so they have managers doing that work for them. Though it is possible they are underpaying the top managers and those top managers don't realize they could go elsewhere for more money (business often ignores fast food experience - which is normally correct but the top managers shouldn't be ignored because their experience is similar to other middle managers - less power point but otherwise similar enough)
        bumby 2y ago
        >Where the company owns the store that is what the top manager makes This seems to be the minority of instances, though. For example, I looked up McDonalds numbers in 2021 and only about 5% are company owned, with the rest being franchises. I think the original claim could have been worded a bit more clearly by stating those high salaries are for managers of the small percentage of company-owned stores and not necessarily generalizable to most fast food restaurants.
  - brailsafe 2y ago
    Pretty sure my manager at Starbucks made $50k at most. Up from there probably higher but not at the store level
celdon25 2y ago
Is that a word now?
- lostlogin 2y ago
  It dates back hundreds of years. You might of heard of people like Marx and Engles and the concept predates them.
  - celdon25 2y ago
    Yeah Marx definitely came to mind. Kidding aside, there’s a time and a place for the word, but it seemed a bit wacky to respond with just “such a classist comment” and leaving it at that. The food service industry doesn’t look through LinkedIn profiles to find recruits for those jobs. The parent comment phrased a legitimate question and it was met with a sarcastic remark that wasn’t insightful or well-placed. But it was par for the course from people that jump on any opportunity to use that word. There’s no future in taking those people seriously and you shouldn’t give them a platform.

Such a classist comment

sandspar 2y ago

Guy who makes $200,000 a year is aghast that some people actually work at McDonald's

_xiaz 2y ago
In our little IT bubble where 3+ interviews are the norm, it's fine to envy the straightforward hiring in food-service. Ofc we still got the better deal overall and should only complain in hush tones
bluGill 2y ago
I'm haven't worked at McDonalds for 20+ years, but I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k - it goes down fast below that though. I'm reasonable sure that if I had stayed at McDonalds I'd have never had a year where I made less than I made in tech. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be out, but they pay those they care about well enough, and there were some good things I miss.
- bumby 2y ago
  >I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k Curious what this range is based on? According to ~3.8k self-reported salaries from Glassdoor, the McD manager salary ranges from $37k-$64k with a median of $48k.
  - celdon25 2y ago
    I don’t like to speculate but I could imagine managers at some franchises receiving a bonus based on profits or sales.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    The top manager. The shift managers make about that, but the top managers who mostly do paperwork and are rarely seen on the floor do better.
    - bumby 2y ago
      Does each store have multiple managers like that or is this equivalent to someone who manages a region of stores? I've worked fast-food in the past as a run-of-the-mill front line worker and wasn't aware of such a position (although that doesn't mean it doesn't exist). Particularly for the franchisees who own a single store, I'm not sure that is economically viable.
      - bluGill 2y ago
        The franchise that owns a single store that is a bit less than what the owner will make (doing a lot of work in the store). Where the company owns the store that is what the top manager makes (from what I can tell the company makes about the same from a franchise or an owned store). Where the franchise owns multiple stores their income depends mostly on how much of the store work they do - but it isn't really possible to manager more than one so they have managers doing that work for them. Though it is possible they are underpaying the top managers and those top managers don't realize they could go elsewhere for more money (business often ignores fast food experience - which is normally correct but the top managers shouldn't be ignored because their experience is similar to other middle managers - less power point but otherwise similar enough)
        bumby 2y ago
        >Where the company owns the store that is what the top manager makes This seems to be the minority of instances, though. For example, I looked up McDonalds numbers in 2021 and only about 5% are company owned, with the rest being franchises. I think the original claim could have been worded a bit more clearly by stating those high salaries are for managers of the small percentage of company-owned stores and not necessarily generalizable to most fast food restaurants.
- brailsafe 2y ago
  Pretty sure my manager at Starbucks made $50k at most. Up from there probably higher but not at the store level

celdon25 2y ago

Is that a word now?

lostlogin 2y ago
It dates back hundreds of years. You might of heard of people like Marx and Engles and the concept predates them.
- celdon25 2y ago
  Yeah Marx definitely came to mind. Kidding aside, there’s a time and a place for the word, but it seemed a bit wacky to respond with just “such a classist comment” and leaving it at that. The food service industry doesn’t look through LinkedIn profiles to find recruits for those jobs. The parent comment phrased a legitimate question and it was met with a sarcastic remark that wasn’t insightful or well-placed. But it was par for the course from people that jump on any opportunity to use that word. There’s no future in taking those people seriously and you shouldn’t give them a platform.