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You should be able to sell what you like as macaroni. Look I fully agree we need oversight for things like supplements and chemicals. But macaroni?

duxup 2y ago
I should be able to buy what I like, and know what it is going to be based on the name. Standards do that. If you want to sell something like macaroni but doesn't fit the standard, you can, just call it something else.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > know what it is going to be based on the name How often do you switch macaroni brands?
  - duxup 2y ago
    Does it matter? The standard would apply to all, including whatever I buy.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > Does it matter? Of course. You’re using consumer search costs as your argument for regulation. If you don’t switch brands, that cost is incurred less frequently. You’re using the brand, not the rule, as your filter.
      - duxup 2y ago
        That's not my argument. I don't even have to search, that's the point. I know what the thing is based on the name, done. I cook, I know what the results are.
        JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > I don't even have to search, that's the point. I know what the thing is based on the name, done Yes, you're avoiding a search cost. That's your argument for standardising the name. You're choosing a measure of standardisation in exchange for restricted variety and a marginally-higher price. (Even if you don't perceive either.) The utility of standardised labelling is reduced consumer search costs. If you aren't changing brands frequently, you aren't choosing based on the word "macaroni." You're choosing based on the brand. You now what Kraft macaroni (or whatever) tastes like. You don't know what any macaroni tastes like, because they all taste very different, because the thickness of a pasta is one among many variables in play.
- anon291 2y ago
  But in common parlance, macaroni is a curved noodle. No one really cares. Plus, many people mean completely different things when they say macaroni. Who is the government to decide what people should call what? Again, where safety is involved (supplements, medicine, nutrition)... fine, but common pasta names?
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > in common parlance, macaroni is a curved noodle In regulatory parlance macaroni = pasta [1]. [1] https://fdastorytime.com/2018/10/10/name-that-food-macaroni-product/ https://fdastorytime.com/2018/10/10/name-that-food-macaroni-...
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> But macaroni? And the thickness of it, no less. Not the ingredients. Not the nutritional content. The thickness.
- 6510 2y ago
  The opposite from the Italians.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > opposite from the Italians This is almost certainly intentional. It reduces competition from imports since anyone who wants to distribute in America has to pay to repackage.

duxup 2y ago

I should be able to buy what I like, and know what it is going to be based on the name. Standards do that. If you want to sell something like macaroni but doesn't fit the standard, you can, just call it something else.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> know what it is going to be based on the name How often do you switch macaroni brands?
- duxup 2y ago
  Does it matter? The standard would apply to all, including whatever I buy.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > Does it matter? Of course. You’re using consumer search costs as your argument for regulation. If you don’t switch brands, that cost is incurred less frequently. You’re using the brand, not the rule, as your filter.
    - duxup 2y ago
      That's not my argument. I don't even have to search, that's the point. I know what the thing is based on the name, done. I cook, I know what the results are.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > I don't even have to search, that's the point. I know what the thing is based on the name, done Yes, you're avoiding a search cost. That's your argument for standardising the name. You're choosing a measure of standardisation in exchange for restricted variety and a marginally-higher price. (Even if you don't perceive either.) The utility of standardised labelling is reduced consumer search costs. If you aren't changing brands frequently, you aren't choosing based on the word "macaroni." You're choosing based on the brand. You now what Kraft macaroni (or whatever) tastes like. You don't know what any macaroni tastes like, because they all taste very different, because the thickness of a pasta is one among many variables in play.
anon291 2y ago
But in common parlance, macaroni is a curved noodle. No one really cares. Plus, many people mean completely different things when they say macaroni. Who is the government to decide what people should call what? Again, where safety is involved (supplements, medicine, nutrition)... fine, but common pasta names?
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > in common parlance, macaroni is a curved noodle In regulatory parlance macaroni = pasta [1]. [1] https://fdastorytime.com/2018/10/10/name-that-food-macaroni-product/ https://fdastorytime.com/2018/10/10/name-that-food-macaroni-...

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> But macaroni? And the thickness of it, no less. Not the ingredients. Not the nutritional content. The thickness.

6510 2y ago
The opposite from the Italians.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > opposite from the Italians This is almost certainly intentional. It reduces competition from imports since anyone who wants to distribute in America has to pay to repackage.