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What services would you get rid of?

AtlasBarfed 2y ago
A huge portion of AWS services are really annoying in my opinion to grassroots developers and platform managers because they are basically executive demoware. You know the kind where the salesman comes in and in front of the CIO builds some whiz-bang demo and like 20 minutes and has a CEO asking why it takes a month or more to do equivalent stuff by real it workers.
- justin_oaks 2y ago
  And sometimes it's worse to customize the out-of-the-box solution than just creating your own solution. For some AWS products, it's pure pain to get it up and running in the configuration you require. There are edge cases and bugs to worry about. That whiz-bang demo? Maybe that's the only functionality that works right. Maybe it's all using default values that won't pass your internal security and compliance policies. And lets not forget the pain of integrating something new with existing systems. It's easy to show a demo of something that doesn't integrate with existing systems, and just show a slide or two of what things it integrates with.
toomuchtodo 2y ago
https://aws.amazon.com/chime/ https://aws.amazon.com/chime/
- __float 2y ago
  Doesn't Amazon/AWS use this very heavily? Whenever we have to get on a call with AWS engineers it's through Chime. As a product, it seems fine. I'm not entirely sure it's an area AWS really needed to have a competitor, but now that they do, /shrug
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    At every org I've had to interface at a deep level with AWS, they've used our Zoom. n=1
- JustinGarrison 2y ago
  If you get rid of chime you also get rid of slack huddles (built on Chime). Like many AWS services the backend of Chime is good, the UX/UI is terrible.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    TIL, interesting design decision on Slack's part.
    - JustinGarrison 2y ago
      It was a business decision because slack's old /call command was built on a startup they aquired. I don't know the details but I'm sure Amazon gets deep discounts on slack and slack get's the same for chime. https://slack.com/blog/news/slack-aws-drive-development-agility https://slack.com/blog/news/slack-aws-drive-development-agil...

A huge portion of AWS services are really annoying in my opinion to grassroots developers and platform managers because they are basically executive demoware. You know the kind where the salesman comes in and in front of the CIO builds some whiz-bang demo and like 20 minutes and has a CEO asking why it takes a month or more to do equivalent stuff by real it workers.

justin_oaks 2y ago
And sometimes it's worse to customize the out-of-the-box solution than just creating your own solution. For some AWS products, it's pure pain to get it up and running in the configuration you require. There are edge cases and bugs to worry about. That whiz-bang demo? Maybe that's the only functionality that works right. Maybe it's all using default values that won't pass your internal security and compliance policies. And lets not forget the pain of integrating something new with existing systems. It's easy to show a demo of something that doesn't integrate with existing systems, and just show a slide or two of what things it integrates with.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

https://aws.amazon.com/chime/ https://aws.amazon.com/chime/

__float 2y ago
Doesn't Amazon/AWS use this very heavily? Whenever we have to get on a call with AWS engineers it's through Chime. As a product, it seems fine. I'm not entirely sure it's an area AWS really needed to have a competitor, but now that they do, /shrug
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  At every org I've had to interface at a deep level with AWS, they've used our Zoom. n=1
JustinGarrison 2y ago
If you get rid of chime you also get rid of slack huddles (built on Chime). Like many AWS services the backend of Chime is good, the UX/UI is terrible.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  TIL, interesting design decision on Slack's part.
  - JustinGarrison 2y ago
    It was a business decision because slack's old /call command was built on a startup they aquired. I don't know the details but I'm sure Amazon gets deep discounts on slack and slack get's the same for chime. https://slack.com/blog/news/slack-aws-drive-development-agility https://slack.com/blog/news/slack-aws-drive-development-agil...