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Google’s spam filter is pretty good though and has been for a long, long time. But I guess we need to sprinkle everything with a bit of extra LLM AI these days.

mrjin 2y ago
Did not work for me from the very first day. I was one of Gmail Beta testers, unfortunately, my new account started receiving one the very first day I registered it. I asked for a blacklist and kept being pushed back saying their filter was good enough, and I should never have never needed a blacklist. Oh well.
- helsinkiandrew 2y ago
  > Did not work for me from the very first day. I was one of Gmail Beta testers But now its superb - reporting that a mail is spam does a good job of marking future mails from that sender as spam and moving messages from spam folder to inbox does the opposite.
  - dagmx 2y ago
    I wish I could say the same. I mark so many emails in my Gmail as phishing attempts but it just never learns. They’re super obvious ones too with a nonsensical email address, a repeating pattern about mcaffee or Norton in the title and an almost empty body with a pdf attached. Meanwhile Gmail also happily never learns when I tell it something isn’t spam either.
    - mrjin 2y ago
      That has been there since the very first day. It seems nothing has changed since.
  - mrjin 2y ago
    Doesn't matter, I no longer want to use google products.
beardyw 2y ago
Agreed. I haven't seen spam in a long time.
- joking 2y ago
  I have to see spam not because it passed the filter, but I have to check the spam folder weekly as some legitim emails end there
jeroenhd 2y ago
Google's spam filter lets through tons of spam for me. I think some spammers are abusing Google's weird DKIM configuration to send me emails that were supposedly sent from my own email address. No amount of clicking "report spam" will do anything. It also blocks just about any small domain that emails me for the first time. No amount of SPF or DKIM will convince Google that you're legitimate party, there's some kind of minimal volume you need to send Google to make your emails arrive to Gmail inboxes the first time. It works when it works, but when it doesn't, it's broken without repair. It works _most of the time_ and it's better than Outlook (though that's not a high bar to clear).
thaumasiotes 2y ago
> Google’s spam filter is pretty good though and has been for a long, long time. What? This hasn't been true for at least 15 years. Instead, Google's spam filter is far, far more aggressive than could conceivably be appropriate, and it routinely filters important communications from people you know.
acdha 2y ago
I used Gmail from the first public signups to their bitchedw Apps for Domains migration. After we switched to Fastmail, the first thing we noticed was how much less spam we were seeing and the second was how many legitimate messages had been incorrectly filtered by their priority inbox system.

mrjin 2y ago

Did not work for me from the very first day. I was one of Gmail Beta testers, unfortunately, my new account started receiving one the very first day I registered it. I asked for a blacklist and kept being pushed back saying their filter was good enough, and I should never have never needed a blacklist. Oh well.

helsinkiandrew 2y ago
> Did not work for me from the very first day. I was one of Gmail Beta testers But now its superb - reporting that a mail is spam does a good job of marking future mails from that sender as spam and moving messages from spam folder to inbox does the opposite.
- dagmx 2y ago
  I wish I could say the same. I mark so many emails in my Gmail as phishing attempts but it just never learns. They’re super obvious ones too with a nonsensical email address, a repeating pattern about mcaffee or Norton in the title and an almost empty body with a pdf attached. Meanwhile Gmail also happily never learns when I tell it something isn’t spam either.
  - mrjin 2y ago
    That has been there since the very first day. It seems nothing has changed since.
- mrjin 2y ago
  Doesn't matter, I no longer want to use google products.

beardyw 2y ago

Agreed. I haven't seen spam in a long time.

joking 2y ago
I have to see spam not because it passed the filter, but I have to check the spam folder weekly as some legitim emails end there

jeroenhd 2y ago

Google's spam filter lets through tons of spam for me. I think some spammers are abusing Google's weird DKIM configuration to send me emails that were supposedly sent from my own email address. No amount of clicking "report spam" will do anything. It also blocks just about any small domain that emails me for the first time. No amount of SPF or DKIM will convince Google that you're legitimate party, there's some kind of minimal volume you need to send Google to make your emails arrive to Gmail inboxes the first time. It works when it works, but when it doesn't, it's broken without repair. It works _most of the time_ and it's better than Outlook (though that's not a high bar to clear).

thaumasiotes 2y ago

> Google’s spam filter is pretty good though and has been for a long, long time. What? This hasn't been true for at least 15 years. Instead, Google's spam filter is far, far more aggressive than could conceivably be appropriate, and it routinely filters important communications from people you know.

acdha 2y ago

I used Gmail from the first public signups to their bitchedw Apps for Domains migration. After we switched to Fastmail, the first thing we noticed was how much less spam we were seeing and the second was how many legitimate messages had been incorrectly filtered by their priority inbox system.