Sure, but the article was about dba's. I worked with DBAs first in the 80s; very competent grumpy old white men who would not let you near the systems. Until ab

Sure, but the article was about dba's. I worked with DBAs first in the 80s; very competent grumpy old white men who would not let you near the systems. Until about 2005, we had to sit with a team of them, have the db changes printed out and discuss why we needed that, pros and cons and discuss the (then Java) application in detail. Often good remarks came back, we went back and forth and it got done. There was somewhere there a transition to cloud and dba's no longer really needed or 18 year old college students don't make bad dba's or we can outsource them etc. I remember close to 2010 sitting at a large european publisher who had a dba team that barely knew databases, let alone the rest of the stack. But yes I agree with your points generally, the rest of the tech staff is often even worse. This article was about dba's and I have and do meet many who shouldn't be ones and who are dangerous. Way too many.