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Firefox does this when shutting down and starting back up. Tabs get "frozen" and "thawed" upon activation after startup. This is superior to bookmarks, as the

Firefox does this when shutting down and starting back up. Tabs get "frozen" and "thawed" upon activation after startup. This is superior to bookmarks, as the server respose is saved along with scroll position etc. I've long wished I could actively trigger this similar to making a bookmark. Bonus if they saved some embeddings too so I could search the contents of the saved pages.

Justsignedup 2y ago
It also shows that people want transient bookmarks. They bookmark a few things they care about, but the rest is bookmarks for the next week or month, then they don't need it anymore.
SilasX 2y ago
lol what? Every Firefox tab I’ve ever switched to after restarting has done a full, across-the-wire reload.
- DaoVeles 2y ago
  Same here. This is only on one laptop that I use for rubbish but the full reload takes a few minutes.
  - bruce511 2y ago
    Might be OS dependant? My Firefox does not reload the page, it's just "there". I have to refresh to get an update of the page (I use it for forums). I'm on Windows if that makes any difference.
    - iggldiggl 2y ago
      I think it rather depends on the page (some pages with lots of dynamically generated content might mark themselves as no-cache/no-store), and in any case if you don't use a tab long enough, sooner or later it'll be evicted from the browser cache.
    - DaoVeles 2y ago
      Maybe, just running on bog standard Linux Mint. Nothing fancy.
- throwaway211 2y ago
  cache_control http header of the site
  - SilasX 2y ago
    No. Every site, even HN and static sites. Remember, we’re taking about a Firefox restart, not the back button.
- magicalhippo 2y ago
  Sites like Facebook or Reddit do indeed do a full reload, but most sites I frequent do not. Nice to be able to pick up where I left. If I want updated content I just hit F5.
  - SilasX 2y ago
    We’re talking about coming from a restart, not the back button.
    - magicalhippo 2y ago
      Yes, that's what I was talking about too. Like I said I have to hit F5 to get updated content after a restart on most sites.
MichaelRo 2y ago
Well sometimes I kill the browser (Firefox, Chrome) rather than closing it because upon starting it again it will automatically recreate the tabs. Where otherwise I lose everything. And I do keep a text file with interesting links, so I don't have to keep 100+ tabs open. Seems much easier to me to skimp through a text file looking for something I remembered seeing than using bookmarks.
- bayindirh 2y ago
  There's an extension called "Tab Session Manager". Give it a look. It allows you to save, edit sync sessions, and name them. It's good.
  - magicalhippo 2y ago
    Yeah I lost my sessions a few times (crashes and just randomly), been using this plugin since. Worked great.
- Vinnl 2y ago
  You can toggle the setting to do it even if you close your browser the normal way: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-restore-my-tabs-last-time#w_restore-the-previous-session-every-time-you-open-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-restore-my-tab...
- kvmet 2y ago
  If you close it normally, restart it, and then do "reopen last closed tab" (cmd/ctrl+shift+t) it will open the entire last window you had open. Press multiple times to open all previous windows.

Justsignedup 2y ago

It also shows that people want transient bookmarks. They bookmark a few things they care about, but the rest is bookmarks for the next week or month, then they don't need it anymore.

SilasX 2y ago

lol what? Every Firefox tab I’ve ever switched to after restarting has done a full, across-the-wire reload.

DaoVeles 2y ago
Same here. This is only on one laptop that I use for rubbish but the full reload takes a few minutes.
- bruce511 2y ago
  Might be OS dependant? My Firefox does not reload the page, it's just "there". I have to refresh to get an update of the page (I use it for forums). I'm on Windows if that makes any difference.
  - iggldiggl 2y ago
    I think it rather depends on the page (some pages with lots of dynamically generated content might mark themselves as no-cache/no-store), and in any case if you don't use a tab long enough, sooner or later it'll be evicted from the browser cache.
  - DaoVeles 2y ago
    Maybe, just running on bog standard Linux Mint. Nothing fancy.
throwaway211 2y ago
cache_control http header of the site
- SilasX 2y ago
  No. Every site, even HN and static sites. Remember, we’re taking about a Firefox restart, not the back button.
magicalhippo 2y ago
Sites like Facebook or Reddit do indeed do a full reload, but most sites I frequent do not. Nice to be able to pick up where I left. If I want updated content I just hit F5.
- SilasX 2y ago
  We’re talking about coming from a restart, not the back button.
  - magicalhippo 2y ago
    Yes, that's what I was talking about too. Like I said I have to hit F5 to get updated content after a restart on most sites.

MichaelRo 2y ago

Well sometimes I kill the browser (Firefox, Chrome) rather than closing it because upon starting it again it will automatically recreate the tabs. Where otherwise I lose everything. And I do keep a text file with interesting links, so I don't have to keep 100+ tabs open. Seems much easier to me to skimp through a text file looking for something I remembered seeing than using bookmarks.

bayindirh 2y ago
There's an extension called "Tab Session Manager". Give it a look. It allows you to save, edit sync sessions, and name them. It's good.
- magicalhippo 2y ago
  Yeah I lost my sessions a few times (crashes and just randomly), been using this plugin since. Worked great.
Vinnl 2y ago
You can toggle the setting to do it even if you close your browser the normal way: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-restore-my-tabs-last-time#w_restore-the-previous-session-every-time-you-open-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-restore-my-tab...
kvmet 2y ago
If you close it normally, restart it, and then do "reopen last closed tab" (cmd/ctrl+shift+t) it will open the entire last window you had open. Press multiple times to open all previous windows.