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That’s good to know but maybe immaterial to the point of the article; The part of the Olympics that remains is not of those views.

AnimalMuppet 2y ago
Well, perfection and peace aren't part of what remains, either. And it does give some context to what he might mean by "perfection" and "peace".
- lo_zamoyski 2y ago
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  - talldayo 2y ago
    It's almost like it wasn't depicting the Last Supper because that has zero relevance to the Olympic ceremonies or culture.
    - lo_zamoyski 2y ago
      Except they were, and they admitted to doing it and issued a fake apology for it.
      - talldayo 2y ago
        Where is Dionysus in Last Supper? Or is there some other blue-painted disciple I missed in the painting?
- big-green-man 2y ago
  Yup, his idea of perfection is most certainly imperfect by our standards, why even try to dress it up? Are we going to extol the virtues of Margaret Sanger and John Money next?
g15jv2dp 2y ago
The guy praised eugenics [1] and admired Hitler [2]. You think that's not relevant to an article about how the Olympics are a "religion of perfection"? What kind of perfection do you think that was, exactly? [1] Pierre de Coubertin, "L'Éducation anglaise," In: J.-M. Brohm, Pierre de Coubertin, le seigneur des anneaux, Homnisphères, 2008. [2] Daniel Bermond, Pierre de Coubertin, Paris, Éditions Perrin, 2008, 429 p. (ISBN 978-2-262-02349-2)
- crop_rotation 2y ago
  Trying to apply current moral standards to historical people will leave you finding nothing but demons in history. If people have to be perfect for their creations to not be discarded, then almost all modern institutions which have survived for long time will be in danger.
  - g15jv2dp 2y ago
    Who's advocating for discarding the olympics? All I'm saying is that we shouldn't glorify this guy.
    - imoverclocked 2y ago
      I’m not sure the article does glorify him. It does call out some shortcomings of his vision and even implementation of the games over the years. The entire point is to get better and move beyond where we are now (and where we were then.) The fact that we can decry his views is a testament that much of humanity has largely moved on from them.
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AnimalMuppet 2y ago

Well, perfection and peace aren't part of what remains, either. And it does give some context to what he might mean by "perfection" and "peace".

lo_zamoyski 2y ago
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- talldayo 2y ago
  It's almost like it wasn't depicting the Last Supper because that has zero relevance to the Olympic ceremonies or culture.
  - lo_zamoyski 2y ago
    Except they were, and they admitted to doing it and issued a fake apology for it.
    - talldayo 2y ago
      Where is Dionysus in Last Supper? Or is there some other blue-painted disciple I missed in the painting?
big-green-man 2y ago
Yup, his idea of perfection is most certainly imperfect by our standards, why even try to dress it up? Are we going to extol the virtues of Margaret Sanger and John Money next?

g15jv2dp 2y ago

The guy praised eugenics [1] and admired Hitler [2]. You think that's not relevant to an article about how the Olympics are a "religion of perfection"? What kind of perfection do you think that was, exactly? [1] Pierre de Coubertin, "L'Éducation anglaise," In: J.-M. Brohm, Pierre de Coubertin, le seigneur des anneaux, Homnisphères, 2008. [2] Daniel Bermond, Pierre de Coubertin, Paris, Éditions Perrin, 2008, 429 p. (ISBN 978-2-262-02349-2)

crop_rotation 2y ago
Trying to apply current moral standards to historical people will leave you finding nothing but demons in history. If people have to be perfect for their creations to not be discarded, then almost all modern institutions which have survived for long time will be in danger.
- g15jv2dp 2y ago
  Who's advocating for discarding the olympics? All I'm saying is that we shouldn't glorify this guy.
  - imoverclocked 2y ago
    I’m not sure the article does glorify him. It does call out some shortcomings of his vision and even implementation of the games over the years. The entire point is to get better and move beyond where we are now (and where we were then.) The fact that we can decry his views is a testament that much of humanity has largely moved on from them.
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