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For about 20 years, chess fans would hold "centaur" tournaments. In those events, the best chess computers, who routinely trounced human grandmasters, teamed up

For about 20 years, chess fans would hold "centaur" tournaments. In those events, the best chess computers, who routinely trounced human grandmasters, teamed up with those same best-in-the-world humans and proceeded to wipe both humans and computers off the board. Nicholas is describing in detail how he pairs up with LLMs to get a similar result in programming and research. Sobering thought: centaur tournaments at the top level are no more. That's because the computers got so good that the human half of the beast no longer added any meaningful value. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_chess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_chess

delichon 2y ago
When I was a kid my dad told me about the most dangerous animal in the world, the hippogator. He said that it had the head of a hippo on one end and the head of an alligator on the other, and it was so dangerous because it was very angry about having nowhere to poop. I'm afraid that this may be a better model of an AI human hybrid than a centaur.
- romwell 2y ago
  ...so, the hippogator was dangerous because he was literally full of shit. Hmmmm.
- disqard 2y ago
  A bit of a detour (inspired by your words)... if anything, LLMs will soon be "eating their own poop", so structurally, they're a "dual" of the "hippogator" -- an ouroboric coprophage. If LLMs ever achieve sentience, will they be mad at all the crap they've had to take? Beautiful story, and thanks for sharing :)
  - gerdesj 2y ago
    Why on earth were you DVd? Is a bit of chat or conversation banned?
QuantumGood 2y ago
Most people only have heard "Didn't an IBM computer beat the world champion", and don't know that Kasparov pysched himself out when Deep Blue had actually maken a mistake. I was part of the online analysis of the (mistaken) engame move at the time that were the first to reveal the error. Kasparov was very stressed by that and other issues, some of which IBM caused ("we'll get you the printout as promised in the terms" and then never delivered). My friend IM Mike Valvo (now deceased) was involved with both matches. More info: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-were-the-main-controversi-x_m9AG3eRiyhdJC6dFSLPw#0 https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-were-the-main-controve...
- deepsun 2y ago
  Your link bans Mozilla VPN.
- ipsum2 2y ago
  Perplexity is a hallucination engine disguised as a search engine. I wouldn't trust anything it says.
  - QuantumGood 2y ago
    If they had a feature that only shared the links they gathered, I would use that. I've found in troubleshooting old electronics Google is often worse than useless, while Perplexity gets me the info I need on the first try. It hasn't (yet) hallucinated a found link, and that's what I use it for primarily
sjducb 2y ago
Hopefully that means we’ve got 20 years left of employment.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  your kids?
  - ziofill 2y ago
    They’ll serve the AGI overlords

delichon 2y ago

When I was a kid my dad told me about the most dangerous animal in the world, the hippogator. He said that it had the head of a hippo on one end and the head of an alligator on the other, and it was so dangerous because it was very angry about having nowhere to poop. I'm afraid that this may be a better model of an AI human hybrid than a centaur.

romwell 2y ago
...so, the hippogator was dangerous because he was literally full of shit. Hmmmm.
disqard 2y ago
A bit of a detour (inspired by your words)... if anything, LLMs will soon be "eating their own poop", so structurally, they're a "dual" of the "hippogator" -- an ouroboric coprophage. If LLMs ever achieve sentience, will they be mad at all the crap they've had to take? Beautiful story, and thanks for sharing :)
- gerdesj 2y ago
  Why on earth were you DVd? Is a bit of chat or conversation banned?

QuantumGood 2y ago

Most people only have heard "Didn't an IBM computer beat the world champion", and don't know that Kasparov pysched himself out when Deep Blue had actually maken a mistake. I was part of the online analysis of the (mistaken) engame move at the time that were the first to reveal the error. Kasparov was very stressed by that and other issues, some of which IBM caused ("we'll get you the printout as promised in the terms" and then never delivered). My friend IM Mike Valvo (now deceased) was involved with both matches. More info: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-were-the-main-controversi-x_m9AG3eRiyhdJC6dFSLPw#0 https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-were-the-main-controve...

deepsun 2y ago
Your link bans Mozilla VPN.
ipsum2 2y ago
Perplexity is a hallucination engine disguised as a search engine. I wouldn't trust anything it says.
- QuantumGood 2y ago
  If they had a feature that only shared the links they gathered, I would use that. I've found in troubleshooting old electronics Google is often worse than useless, while Perplexity gets me the info I need on the first try. It hasn't (yet) hallucinated a found link, and that's what I use it for primarily

sjducb 2y ago

Hopefully that means we’ve got 20 years left of employment.

bamboozled 2y ago
your kids?
- ziofill 2y ago
  They’ll serve the AGI overlords