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Better details here: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/commission-enforces-temporary-restrictions-liquid-screening-certain-eu-airports-2024-07-31_

Better details here: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/commission-enforces-temporary-restrictions-liquid-screening-certain-eu-airports-2024-07-31_en https://transport.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/commission-e... Seems even with the new scanners there is some issue why they have to limit items to no more than 100ml temporarily. Maybe waiting for a software update… though if there is a loophole seems weird to wait until September 1st…

trte9343r4 2y ago
Basically no change. 100ml limit per bottle was always there, and still is.
- Muromec 2y ago
  Schiphol has those fancy scanners and they allow to bring bottles with you and did so for years.
  - anon23432343 2y ago
    yes as has Arlanda for example. They now found a problem with them and now you even there from sept. 1 can not take more then 100ml
    - Muromec 2y ago
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  - trte9343r4 2y ago
    But some gates don't, or it is broken...
    - switch007 2y ago
      Gates? The scanners are at security
- planetjones 2y ago
  Not at airports that installed the new scanners. Like London City e.g.https://www.londoncityairport.com/at-the-airport/need-to-know/security-baggage https://www.londoncityairport.com/at-the-airport/need-to-kno...
  - mr_mitm 2y ago
    What's different with these scanners? Can they identify the molecular structure of the liquids or what was the problem previously?
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rmccue 2y ago
From the linked regulation: > Technical information received by the Commission and validated by ECAC States and laboratories, shows that the existing configurations of standard C3 EDSCB equipment to which the Commission has granted the ‘EU Stamp’ marking or the ‘EU Stamp pending’ marking need to be revised in order to improve their performance Sounds like this might be a software problem of some sort, although it’s surprising if that’s affecting multiple vendors. Maybe an issue with the certification process?
andriesm 2y ago
I wish someone would explain to me why confiscating my clear plastic water bottle from me at the airport is such a security priority.
- doubled112 2y ago
  It could be a bomb!
- ben_w 2y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyG8XAmtYeQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyG8XAmtYeQ TLDW: was previously hard to tell the difference between water and explosives.
  - cocok 2y ago
    Taking a gulp or two from the bottle should be enough of a differentiator, IMO. Are there edible explosives?
    - ben_w 2y ago
      > Taking a gulp or two from the bottle should be enough of a differentiator, IMO. The queues are long enough already, much faster to just say no. > Are there edible explosives? Yes, quite a lot, food calories can be made explosive. Don't give them ideas.
      - eastbound 2y ago
        Are phone batteries explosive? Able to generate a fire that can’t be extinguished with a fire extinguisher? Do we allow 100ml of phone battery? Does a Macbook contain even more energy?
        chippiewill 2y ago
        We allow 100wh of batteries in individual devices

trte9343r4 2y ago

Basically no change. 100ml limit per bottle was always there, and still is.

Muromec 2y ago
Schiphol has those fancy scanners and they allow to bring bottles with you and did so for years.
- anon23432343 2y ago
  yes as has Arlanda for example. They now found a problem with them and now you even there from sept. 1 can not take more then 100ml
  - Muromec 2y ago
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- trte9343r4 2y ago
  But some gates don't, or it is broken...
  - switch007 2y ago
    Gates? The scanners are at security
planetjones 2y ago
Not at airports that installed the new scanners. Like London City e.g.https://www.londoncityairport.com/at-the-airport/need-to-know/security-baggage https://www.londoncityairport.com/at-the-airport/need-to-kno...
- mr_mitm 2y ago
  What's different with these scanners? Can they identify the molecular structure of the liquids or what was the problem previously?
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rmccue 2y ago

From the linked regulation: > Technical information received by the Commission and validated by ECAC States and laboratories, shows that the existing configurations of standard C3 EDSCB equipment to which the Commission has granted the ‘EU Stamp’ marking or the ‘EU Stamp pending’ marking need to be revised in order to improve their performance Sounds like this might be a software problem of some sort, although it’s surprising if that’s affecting multiple vendors. Maybe an issue with the certification process?

andriesm 2y ago

I wish someone would explain to me why confiscating my clear plastic water bottle from me at the airport is such a security priority.

doubled112 2y ago
It could be a bomb!
ben_w 2y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyG8XAmtYeQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyG8XAmtYeQ TLDW: was previously hard to tell the difference between water and explosives.
- cocok 2y ago
  Taking a gulp or two from the bottle should be enough of a differentiator, IMO. Are there edible explosives?
  - ben_w 2y ago
    > Taking a gulp or two from the bottle should be enough of a differentiator, IMO. The queues are long enough already, much faster to just say no. > Are there edible explosives? Yes, quite a lot, food calories can be made explosive. Don't give them ideas.
    - eastbound 2y ago
      Are phone batteries explosive? Able to generate a fire that can’t be extinguished with a fire extinguisher? Do we allow 100ml of phone battery? Does a Macbook contain even more energy?
      - chippiewill 2y ago
        We allow 100wh of batteries in individual devices