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The article is unfortunately disingenuous and cannot be trusted to make an honest argument. > In late 2023, campaign group More In Common polled British people

The article is unfortunately disingenuous and cannot be trusted to make an honest argument. > In late 2023, campaign group More In Common polled British people on their attitudes towards pandemic life ... a third of 25 to 40-year-olds backed closing nightclubs again, 29 per cent were keen to bring back “the rule of six” and 28 per cent would have been comfortable with “only allowing people to leave their homes for essential shopping, 60 minutes of exercise, or work”. They're mixing two polls and making it sound like these people CURRENTLY support these measures. Those numbers were from a poll taken BEFORE any COVID restrictions had been put in place at all (i.e. what SAFETY measures should we enact to slow the pandemic?): https://www.moreincommon.org.uk/media/31kfnjxi/mic-covid-restrictions-polling.xlsx https://www.moreincommon.org.uk/media/31kfnjxi/mic-covid-res... It took a lot of digging for me to find it, and I can see why they didn't want to link to it. And just in case one wants to give the authors the benefit of the doubt, they finish off with this flourish: "This was more than a year after the last legal restrictions were lifted in the UK, in line with global health policy." So yeah, a baldfaced lie. > Still, French philosopher Pascal Bruckner argues, “life means excess and profligacy or it ceases to be life." Uhh... WTF??? That's precisely the mentality that has led to the ecological disaster we're entering today! > Who will win the war? WHAT war??? Who's fighting a war over this? > As Bruckner puts it, “a new anthropological type is emerging: the shrivelled, hyperconnected being who no longer needs others or the outside world. All of today’s technologies encourage incarceration under the guise of openness.” Jeez... Is this guy high? I've stopped reading at this point.

thackerhacker 2y ago
The poll you link to says December 2023, like the article.
rini17 2y ago
Pervasive loneliness is unhealthy, though. And I fully agree the article is doing same disservice to it as "just stop eating" obesity advice.
ath3nd 2y ago
> Uhh... WTF??? That's precisely the mentality that has led to the ecological disaster we're entering today! I've found out that extrovert crowd is often also the crowd who will say things like: - I am sure we'll figure it out later - Well, this might be problematic in the future, but will give us such big gains in the short term (by which time they already happily moved their show to another company, leaving the quiet ones to deal with what they left behind) - Great job, team, we managed to fix the problem/disaster/oil spill (who caused it in the first place). - I am healthy, I can take the risk of not having a mask (and not thinking of the immunocompromised and the old) We should, imo, treat people like that not only with unease that one reserves for charlatans, mystics and mime performers. We should actively show them that their loud, rude, obnoxious and overbearing ways deserve a bit of our scorn as well. Let's stop not only following loud fools, but even listening to them. They crave our attention, let's stop giving it to them. > Still, French philosopher Pascal Bruckner argues, “life means excess and profligacy or it ceases to be life." The same way cancer cells are life. They excess and proliferate.
- skeaker 2y ago
  Hey now, leave mimes out of this.

thackerhacker 2y ago

The poll you link to says December 2023, like the article.

rini17 2y ago

Pervasive loneliness is unhealthy, though. And I fully agree the article is doing same disservice to it as "just stop eating" obesity advice.

ath3nd 2y ago

> Uhh... WTF??? That's precisely the mentality that has led to the ecological disaster we're entering today! I've found out that extrovert crowd is often also the crowd who will say things like: - I am sure we'll figure it out later - Well, this might be problematic in the future, but will give us such big gains in the short term (by which time they already happily moved their show to another company, leaving the quiet ones to deal with what they left behind) - Great job, team, we managed to fix the problem/disaster/oil spill (who caused it in the first place). - I am healthy, I can take the risk of not having a mask (and not thinking of the immunocompromised and the old) We should, imo, treat people like that not only with unease that one reserves for charlatans, mystics and mime performers. We should actively show them that their loud, rude, obnoxious and overbearing ways deserve a bit of our scorn as well. Let's stop not only following loud fools, but even listening to them. They crave our attention, let's stop giving it to them. > Still, French philosopher Pascal Bruckner argues, “life means excess and profligacy or it ceases to be life." The same way cancer cells are life. They excess and proliferate.

skeaker 2y ago
Hey now, leave mimes out of this.