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First of all the COVID pandemic is still going on, the idea that it's over is just wishful thinking backed by irresponsible media and governments. Even without

First of all the COVID pandemic is still going on, the idea that it's over is just wishful thinking backed by irresponsible media and governments. Even without the very real risk of contracting a dangerous disease that can cause long-term health problems, it's fine to prefer a slower, less frenetic phase of civilization. Science and capitalism have delivered technology and wealth, we won history, we just have to relax, take care of each other, and live happily ever after. "Where shall we have lunch?", eh? “The History of every major Galactic Civilization tends to pass through three distinct and recognizable phases, those of Survival, Inquiry and Sophistication, otherwise known as the How, Why, and Where phases. For instance, the first phase is characterized by the question 'How can we eat?' the second by the question 'Why do we eat?' and the third by the question 'Where shall we have lunch?” ― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

switch007 2y ago
How would you define the end of the pandemic?
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  That's the neat part, the powers that be have decided it's over because it's endemic and supposedly not as dangerous anymore (even though new cases of long covid are popping up, the silent long-term pandemic that nobody really wants to address even though there's millions of people affected by it.
  - switch007 2y ago
    I don't think that answers my question at all. It wasn't rhetorical I'm very familiar with COVID having had it it at least 4 times, and also long COVID - two instances about 6 months each There is no disagreement from me that post viral symptoms need more attention but I don't think it's necessary to downgrade the meaning of pandemic.
- RodgerTheGreat 2y ago
  How would you define the end of having your arm sawn off? Observing that your arm is still missing years later is not "downgrading the meaning" of missing a limb. The definition of the word "pandemic" has no connection to the duration of the phenomenon. Barring concerted international intervention or game-changing technological innovation- like the development of a sterilizing vaccine- COVID will remain a problem indefinitely, lowering quality and quantity of human life.
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- carapace 2y ago
  Fewer than ten thousand new cases a day (for the USA). > "I think if we can get well below 10,000, I think that would be a level that I think would be acceptable to us to get back to a degree of normality," Fauci said. "But again, I have to warn the listeners, these are not definitive statements — these are just estimates." https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/16/dr-fauci-says-us-covid-cases-need-to-fall-below-10000-a-day-to-get-to-a-degree-of-normality.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/16/dr-fauci-says-us-covid-cases... Stay safe out there.

switch007 2y ago

How would you define the end of the pandemic?

Cthulhu_ 2y ago
That's the neat part, the powers that be have decided it's over because it's endemic and supposedly not as dangerous anymore (even though new cases of long covid are popping up, the silent long-term pandemic that nobody really wants to address even though there's millions of people affected by it.
- switch007 2y ago
  I don't think that answers my question at all. It wasn't rhetorical I'm very familiar with COVID having had it it at least 4 times, and also long COVID - two instances about 6 months each There is no disagreement from me that post viral symptoms need more attention but I don't think it's necessary to downgrade the meaning of pandemic.
RodgerTheGreat 2y ago
How would you define the end of having your arm sawn off? Observing that your arm is still missing years later is not "downgrading the meaning" of missing a limb. The definition of the word "pandemic" has no connection to the duration of the phenomenon. Barring concerted international intervention or game-changing technological innovation- like the development of a sterilizing vaccine- COVID will remain a problem indefinitely, lowering quality and quantity of human life.
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carapace 2y ago
Fewer than ten thousand new cases a day (for the USA). > "I think if we can get well below 10,000, I think that would be a level that I think would be acceptable to us to get back to a degree of normality," Fauci said. "But again, I have to warn the listeners, these are not definitive statements — these are just estimates." https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/16/dr-fauci-says-us-covid-cases-need-to-fall-below-10000-a-day-to-get-to-a-degree-of-normality.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/16/dr-fauci-says-us-covid-cases... Stay safe out there.