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In the grand scheme of things, aren't we being overly concerned about a potential blip? I don't want to minimise this, but some people are becoming hysterical,

In the grand scheme of things, aren't we being overly concerned about a potential blip? I don't want to minimise this, but some people are becoming hysterical, leading to ideas like blocking the sun or taxing everyone to fund various greenwashing vanity projects. Such click-baits don't help.

BoiledCabbage 2y ago
Well then, in your opinion, when is the time to actually become concerned about it? If continuous gradual increases aren't it, and larger outlier events aren't it - what's left? Frequent medium increases? Because we're seeing those too. I ask genuinely, from your perspective, when is the time to become concerned about it?
- varispeed 2y ago
  The time window we are looking at is too small to draw any sensible conclusions and nature is constantly adapting to the climate changes.
  - BoiledCabbage 2y ago
    What time window would be appropriate to draw conclusions, in your opinion?
jfengel 2y ago
To me, "click bait" implies that the article is less interesting than the headline, especially when the headline is misleading. That's not the case here. The headline is a simple fact, and the context justifies it. As the article points out, this "blip" is less than another data point two years ago. At some point you have to stop pretending you don't see a pattern. We don't need green washing vanity projects. We need a national and global plan to reduce fossil fuel use. Fast. Faster than it would have been if we'd started decades ago, when both theory and data were already evident, and people started dismissing everything as a "blip" rather than do something. We can't get anything done while large numbers of people keep denying the basic reality of the data and the basic chemistry and physics that explains it.
- sassy_quat 2y ago
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jauntywundrkind 2y ago
It's amazing how gladly people are willing to write off existential threats & badmouth & insult those who talk to the high risk situations. > Such click-baits don't help You don't help. Not at all. We should probably start blocking the in and taxing everyone for actual green efforts. The traitors to the species telling us to disregard information & stay the course should probably be gagged & ostracized from society, so that the planet has a chance.

BoiledCabbage 2y ago

Well then, in your opinion, when is the time to actually become concerned about it? If continuous gradual increases aren't it, and larger outlier events aren't it - what's left? Frequent medium increases? Because we're seeing those too. I ask genuinely, from your perspective, when is the time to become concerned about it?

varispeed 2y ago
The time window we are looking at is too small to draw any sensible conclusions and nature is constantly adapting to the climate changes.
- BoiledCabbage 2y ago
  What time window would be appropriate to draw conclusions, in your opinion?

jfengel 2y ago

To me, "click bait" implies that the article is less interesting than the headline, especially when the headline is misleading. That's not the case here. The headline is a simple fact, and the context justifies it. As the article points out, this "blip" is less than another data point two years ago. At some point you have to stop pretending you don't see a pattern. We don't need green washing vanity projects. We need a national and global plan to reduce fossil fuel use. Fast. Faster than it would have been if we'd started decades ago, when both theory and data were already evident, and people started dismissing everything as a "blip" rather than do something. We can't get anything done while large numbers of people keep denying the basic reality of the data and the basic chemistry and physics that explains it.

sassy_quat 2y ago
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jauntywundrkind 2y ago

It's amazing how gladly people are willing to write off existential threats & badmouth & insult those who talk to the high risk situations. > Such click-baits don't help You don't help. Not at all. We should probably start blocking the in and taxing everyone for actual green efforts. The traitors to the species telling us to disregard information & stay the course should probably be gagged & ostracized from society, so that the planet has a chance.