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1. This article's headline made me lose some trust in the WSJ, given that: 2. Huawei has gotten stronger in China and weaker elsewhere. https://archive.ph/JgN

by lysace 2y ago

1. This article's headline made me lose some trust in the WSJ, given that: 2. Huawei has gotten stronger in China and weaker elsewhere. https://archive.ph/JgNQg/d40b9dd122f4675c47c29c9a4528bb6073469e50.png https://archive.ph/JgNQg/d40b9dd122f4675c47c29c9a4528bb60734... Edit: Flagged? What rule does this comment break?

imp0cat 2y ago
Why was this flagged?
j_maffe 2y ago
Is it only confusing to me that the Americas region is the lowest one and that it barely dropped after the sanctions?
- lysace 2y ago
  1. EMEA is surprisingly often a larger market than "the Americas" 2. "that it barely dropped after the sanctions" - good point.
- verdverm 2y ago
  What countries are included in "Americas"? I speculate the Southern Hemisphere is the biggest driver in that category and is one of the places China is most actively engaging. Africa is another region, but lumped together with Europe. The chart, as is, doesn't have sufficient detail to parse out the effects of sanctions from the regions participating vs not. I wonder if that is the point of the chart's design... WSJ?
mrmetanoia 2y ago
It also just seems unnecessarily hostile as a headline - the US banned/sanctioned them after seemingly valid security concerns. It wasn't like they just said 'hahaha let's knock down Huawei!' Nobody likes to have to replace a vendor ;) I'd speculate someone somewhere at these Chinese companies has to be thinking like Dr. Evil's henchmen after turning his empire into legit successful businesses worth more than the evil schemes he cooks up. "ugh do we have to put backdoors in, they're gonna figure it out eventually and we're already making money, what's the point of this again? Down with our enemies or something?"
simonblack 2y ago
This article's headline made me lose some trust in the WSJ Most of Murdoch's media have been designated as 'Entertainment, and not obliged to be truthful'.(Florida ruling: early 1990s) If you're expecting the truth from Murdoch's rags, I have a lovely new bridge to sell you.

by lysace 2y ago

imp0cat 2y ago

Why was this flagged?

j_maffe 2y ago

Is it only confusing to me that the Americas region is the lowest one and that it barely dropped after the sanctions?

lysace 2y ago
1. EMEA is surprisingly often a larger market than "the Americas" 2. "that it barely dropped after the sanctions" - good point.
verdverm 2y ago
What countries are included in "Americas"? I speculate the Southern Hemisphere is the biggest driver in that category and is one of the places China is most actively engaging. Africa is another region, but lumped together with Europe. The chart, as is, doesn't have sufficient detail to parse out the effects of sanctions from the regions participating vs not. I wonder if that is the point of the chart's design... WSJ?

mrmetanoia 2y ago

It also just seems unnecessarily hostile as a headline - the US banned/sanctioned them after seemingly valid security concerns. It wasn't like they just said 'hahaha let's knock down Huawei!' Nobody likes to have to replace a vendor ;) I'd speculate someone somewhere at these Chinese companies has to be thinking like Dr. Evil's henchmen after turning his empire into legit successful businesses worth more than the evil schemes he cooks up. "ugh do we have to put backdoors in, they're gonna figure it out eventually and we're already making money, what's the point of this again? Down with our enemies or something?"

simonblack 2y ago

This article's headline made me lose some trust in the WSJ Most of Murdoch's media have been designated as 'Entertainment, and not obliged to be truthful'.(Florida ruling: early 1990s) If you're expecting the truth from Murdoch's rags, I have a lovely new bridge to sell you.