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Where "reliable sources" tends to mean traditional media. Which makes it both more reliable (for many purposes) and much more limited. For restaurants, I do ten
by ghaff 2y ago
Where "reliable sources" tends to mean traditional media. Which makes it both more reliable (for many purposes) and much more limited. For restaurants, I do tend to trust newspaper restaurant critics more but there's also far less of that especially at a small-scale non-urban local level.
- kragen 2y agoi don't think newspaper restaurant critics count as 'reliable sources' in wikipedia with respect to the questions people are interested in here, such as whether the chicken is overcooked. i am pretty sure that if you try to put an assertion like that into a wikipedia article about a restaurant, it will be reverted as unverifiable pov pushing, regardless of how many newspaper restaurant critics you can cite in support of it. you can probably cite them for things like when the restaurant opened and why it moved to its current location, as well as use them for evidence of notability
- ghaff 2y agoI don't really expect something in Wikipedia to get into the nuances of particular dish quality. But, in general, I would expect that--to the degree Wikipedia gets into the quality of a particular restaurant--a New York Times review would carry a lot of weight. In general though I agree that Wikipedia is probably not the place for restaurant reviews even to the degree they're sources from well-known restaurant critics.
- kragen 2y agothis is generally limited to things that wikipedia editors of vastly opposing viewpoints can agree on, like whether and when the restaurant was awarded a michelin star like, imagine a vegan, a devout hindu, a muslim, a carnivore, a neighborhood kid, and a foodie editing an article about a texas steakhouse that is known for its barbecued pork. whatever text any of these people finds unfairly biased is going to get deleted from the article, and what's left is what they can agree on this process produces astoundingly reliable articles on contentious topics like the armenian genocide, but the results are predictably of poor literary quality, and generally not very useful for things like guessing which restaurant you would prefer to eat at