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Low fidelity information transmission is not "ultimately futile" but instead something to build on. Or what do you measure it against?

• strogonoff 2y ago
  It is ultimately futile for the reasons outlined in the top-level comment. What one person experiences cannot be precisely conveyed to another person without round-tripping very lossy means of communication, such as language. If you have an example of some existing means of lossless communication between two humans, bring it forth. If you believe it is a technical possibility, then be my guest—however, I do not see such a way (that would also maintain humans as a set of diverse individual conscious agents, so homogenizing society to reduce everyone to a shared baseline does not count).
  • rini17 2y ago
    Absolutely everything we have achieved as a civilization, depended on lossy communication between humans. And all experience is inherently subjective. Why is all that somehow ultimately futile and requires counterexample not to be? I don't get it. We don't have to totally understand each other to achieve something together.
    • strogonoff 2y ago
      What is futile is to fully communicate experience. You seem to be talking about something else. Yes, individuals having or not having aphantasia, me being unable to communicate whether my blue feels the same as your blue, etc., does not prevent us from achieving certain goals together.