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FB should still not get all these things for free.

seryoiupfurds 2y ago
So Facebook should be obliged to pay you every time you upload a photo? Anyone with a camera will be a millionaire by tomorrow morning. And the government did choose to require Facebook to pay for the news. Facebook decided the price wasn't worth it, so now they no longer allow news on their platform. They aren't getting anything for free. Fair and square.
- Eisenstein 2y ago
  Responding to 'it seems fair to ask for treatment that other media authors get' with 'lets forget all nuance and adopt the most extreme position one could take' by comparing people who sell their work for a living with people who post pictures of themselves for attention is not helpful and does not make your point stronger.
  - Spivak 2y ago
    Facebook doesn't get these things for free. Facebook is no more able to commit copyright infringement than you are. There's no difference between amateur and professional photographers under the law. In both cases it's a photo uploaded to Facebook by someone who owns the copyright on it. When you upload a photo to Facebook you grant them a license to display it when people see your post. They're not Getty, you're not selling your photo to them. Like I'm not sure where the disconnect it, do you wish Facebook had a monetization scheme like YouTube? Because that's entirely voluntary. For "pirated" content monetization is a voluntary offering that serves as an alternative to issuing a takedown request.
    - Eisenstein 2y ago
      I don't wish anything. I am telling you that resorting to comparisons which destroy the nuance of life and human actions is detrimental to conversations and that you should stop doing that because it doesn't make you right, it makes you an agitator.
      - Sirizarry 2y ago
        Where are they wrong?
        Eisenstein 2y ago
        They didn't make any factual statements in the comment I initially replied to.
  - hackerbeat 2y ago
    Yeah, he's just twisting the facts to make a point. Still no comment on why news corps have to pay for pics and content when FB gets it all for free.

So Facebook should be obliged to pay you every time you upload a photo? Anyone with a camera will be a millionaire by tomorrow morning. And the government did choose to require Facebook to pay for the news. Facebook decided the price wasn't worth it, so now they no longer allow news on their platform. They aren't getting anything for free. Fair and square.

Eisenstein 2y ago
Responding to 'it seems fair to ask for treatment that other media authors get' with 'lets forget all nuance and adopt the most extreme position one could take' by comparing people who sell their work for a living with people who post pictures of themselves for attention is not helpful and does not make your point stronger.
- Spivak 2y ago
  Facebook doesn't get these things for free. Facebook is no more able to commit copyright infringement than you are. There's no difference between amateur and professional photographers under the law. In both cases it's a photo uploaded to Facebook by someone who owns the copyright on it. When you upload a photo to Facebook you grant them a license to display it when people see your post. They're not Getty, you're not selling your photo to them. Like I'm not sure where the disconnect it, do you wish Facebook had a monetization scheme like YouTube? Because that's entirely voluntary. For "pirated" content monetization is a voluntary offering that serves as an alternative to issuing a takedown request.
  - Eisenstein 2y ago
    I don't wish anything. I am telling you that resorting to comparisons which destroy the nuance of life and human actions is detrimental to conversations and that you should stop doing that because it doesn't make you right, it makes you an agitator.
    - Sirizarry 2y ago
      Where are they wrong?
      - Eisenstein 2y ago
        They didn't make any factual statements in the comment I initially replied to.
- hackerbeat 2y ago
  Yeah, he's just twisting the facts to make a point. Still no comment on why news corps have to pay for pics and content when FB gets it all for free.