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But they don't want to do anything. They just want republican to mess up things and tell people republicans are bad etc..

acc4everypici 2y ago
you've pointed out the problem with the contemporary american two party state. it's a see saw of nobody does anything but blame their systemic rival either USA party system gets more than two parties because they're on a steady stalemate, like other poster was saying, 35 years of gridlocked congress because of two way ties. or look at china, my prediction is that soon enough a ballsy european monarchy is gonna go full-blown one-party democracy or something clever like that
- jfengel 2y ago
  You can't pass legislation without a majority. Adding more parties won't make that easier. It just creates more rivals.
  - acc4everypici 2y ago
    or maybe it gives a voice (i.e. political representation) to a larger pool of diverse people and communities?
    - jfengel 2y ago
      Sure. Lots of voices. No actual legislation (or listening), but plenty of talking.
  - batch12 2y ago
    And temporary allies. Maybe with more than two parties we could move past the idea that the platform of one party has to be the exact opposite of the other on every issue. Then, maybe, not every effort would result in a gridlock. Perhaps a nice side effect could be that people stop seeing others who disagree with them as evil.
    - jfengel 2y ago
      It's hard to make progress with temporary allies. They're going to expect some kind of mutual benefit. That is easiest when you've got trust, and the belief that you will have my back in the future. It's hard to have faith in temporary allies, and less opportunity to make compromises and trade-offs. It's far easier when your allies are long term. Which functions a lot like a single party even if you don't call it that.
nequo 2y ago
Seems false. They did quite a few things. They passed the Affordable Care Act. They oversaw the recovery from the 2007-2008 crisis that engineers talk about to this day. They got two SCOTUS justices confirmed too.
hypothesis 2y ago
Or they will just complain how republicans only did “tax cuts” during their recent federal trifecta. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_trifecta https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_trifecta
kouru225 2y ago
They only had 21 days of a majority tbh

acc4everypici 2y ago

you've pointed out the problem with the contemporary american two party state. it's a see saw of nobody does anything but blame their systemic rival either USA party system gets more than two parties because they're on a steady stalemate, like other poster was saying, 35 years of gridlocked congress because of two way ties. or look at china, my prediction is that soon enough a ballsy european monarchy is gonna go full-blown one-party democracy or something clever like that

jfengel 2y ago
You can't pass legislation without a majority. Adding more parties won't make that easier. It just creates more rivals.
- acc4everypici 2y ago
  or maybe it gives a voice (i.e. political representation) to a larger pool of diverse people and communities?
  - jfengel 2y ago
    Sure. Lots of voices. No actual legislation (or listening), but plenty of talking.
- batch12 2y ago
  And temporary allies. Maybe with more than two parties we could move past the idea that the platform of one party has to be the exact opposite of the other on every issue. Then, maybe, not every effort would result in a gridlock. Perhaps a nice side effect could be that people stop seeing others who disagree with them as evil.
  - jfengel 2y ago
    It's hard to make progress with temporary allies. They're going to expect some kind of mutual benefit. That is easiest when you've got trust, and the belief that you will have my back in the future. It's hard to have faith in temporary allies, and less opportunity to make compromises and trade-offs. It's far easier when your allies are long term. Which functions a lot like a single party even if you don't call it that.

nequo 2y ago

Seems false. They did quite a few things. They passed the Affordable Care Act. They oversaw the recovery from the 2007-2008 crisis that engineers talk about to this day. They got two SCOTUS justices confirmed too.

hypothesis 2y ago

Or they will just complain how republicans only did “tax cuts” during their recent federal trifecta. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_trifecta https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_trifecta

kouru225 2y ago

They only had 21 days of a majority tbh