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The disconnect with reality is people often find themselves inside "information bubbles" where it feels like everyone thinks the same policies need to be enacte
by Alupis 2y ago
The disconnect with reality is people often find themselves inside "information bubbles" where it feels like everyone thinks the same policies need to be enacted. Then they are dumbfounded when the policy doesn't actually get passed. When this happens, it's easy to fall into the propaganda and believe "the other side" is actively trying to subvert the country/constitution and destroy everything.
Reality is there is not consensus for those policies. It's that simple.
I promise you, there aren't any congress critters that are actually trying to destroy the country. They are each doing what they believe is best, and what they were elected to do... even if personally we don't favor those viewpoints.
- CamperBob2 2y agoI promise you, there aren't any congress critters that are actually trying to destroy the country. Even the ones who spend July 4 in Moscow, actively support insurrection, and put their hands on the Constitution while swearing to uphold the Bible? The system wasn't designed to tolerate an entire party of saboteurs.
- Alupis 2y agoCan we lay down the propaganda for a minute and actually debate using our brains? This ridiculous propaganda is super exhausting and very unstimulating.
- CamperBob2 2y agoI've been warned multiple times against participating in flamewars on HN, so I'll pass, thanks. Civil discourse has effectively been rendered impossible by the partisans in Congress and elsewhere that I'm referring to.
- Alupis 2y ago> Civil discourse has effectively been rendered impossible by the people I'm referring to > The system wasn't designed to tolerate an entire party of saboteurs. I'm missing something here, because it seems you are the flame war you speak ill of, and when I asked you to tone down the rhetoric you throw your hands up and say you're not going to participate in said flame war. You are right though - it is impossible to have a productive conversation when one person is determined to only believe their flavor of propaganda and not find any common ground. I said it elsewhere in thread: "Sit down with a friend that has the opposite political viewpoints and discuss some hard issues for an hour. There's a 0% chance the two sides don't find common ground..."
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- trealira 2y agoI'm sure Viktor Orban thinks he's doing what's best for Hungary, too. It doesn't really matter whether they think they're justified when their values are so alien that you can't reconcile your ideals with theirs. You may as well tell a sick patient that they're being unreasonable because the virus isn't actually a sentient being trying to destroy your body's cells, it's just programmed to reproduce like that.