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Because so much money has been invested into LLM tech, they have to at least try to shove it into everything. There already is substantial consumer backlash for

by mlsu 2y ago

Because so much money has been invested into LLM tech, they have to at least try to shove it into everything. There already is substantial consumer backlash forming, because a bunch of nerds just got too excited & made too many promises to capital. Now they're going to try to dig themselves out of the $600b hole. That's what this ad is. What bothers me so much about the whole situation is that the tech is actually so cool. It's incredibly valuable to pay $20/mo to a service to give me feedback on code I'm writing or a draft of an email. But $20/mo, across ten million consumers like me, is simply not enough at bigtech scale. It must be inserted into every part of life.

lawlessone 2y ago
I wouldn't blame the nerds so much as business people that needed to see immediate profit.
- mlsu 2y ago
  Maybe. Nerds saying "agi just around the corner" and doing demos of humanoid robots "powered by AI"? that ain't helping.
SoftTalker 2y ago
And while $20/month is not too much to pay as a professional using the technology (should actually be priced much closer to your own hourly rate if it's really that good), it's still too much for most consumers to pay for what amounts to a novelty. People are already being nickel-and-dimed to death with so many things moving to a subscription model. In my everday/non-work life, ChatGPT (or Gemini) doesn't do anything I'd pay even $20/month for.
- mlsu 2y ago
  Yes. But with so much competition between foundational models out there, there's no way any of these companies will be able to charge more than that. Llama is out there for the electricity cost of FLOPS. On top of that. It's sad to say, but a huge number of people out there are functionally illiterate, and have absolutely no use whatsoever for this technology. Most people simply never voluntarily read or write anything at all unless they are compelled to, ever, their entire lives. It's something they have to do in school and once they're done doing it they are done forever. The value of a text based assistant is zero or negative to them.
pjmlp 2y ago
Now the question is, how much will Python be affected by yet another AI Winter wave cycle.

by mlsu 2y ago

lawlessone 2y ago

I wouldn't blame the nerds so much as business people that needed to see immediate profit.

mlsu 2y ago
Maybe. Nerds saying "agi just around the corner" and doing demos of humanoid robots "powered by AI"? that ain't helping.

SoftTalker 2y ago

And while $20/month is not too much to pay as a professional using the technology (should actually be priced much closer to your own hourly rate if it's really that good), it's still too much for most consumers to pay for what amounts to a novelty. People are already being nickel-and-dimed to death with so many things moving to a subscription model. In my everday/non-work life, ChatGPT (or Gemini) doesn't do anything I'd pay even $20/month for.

mlsu 2y ago
Yes. But with so much competition between foundational models out there, there's no way any of these companies will be able to charge more than that. Llama is out there for the electricity cost of FLOPS. On top of that. It's sad to say, but a huge number of people out there are functionally illiterate, and have absolutely no use whatsoever for this technology. Most people simply never voluntarily read or write anything at all unless they are compelled to, ever, their entire lives. It's something they have to do in school and once they're done doing it they are done forever. The value of a text based assistant is zero or negative to them.

pjmlp 2y ago

Now the question is, how much will Python be affected by yet another AI Winter wave cycle.