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But low-calorie sugars provide a rationalization for overconsumption instead of changing behaviors. To me, every single one tastes terrible. But worst, they s

by klyrs 2y ago

But low-calorie sugars provide a rationalization for overconsumption instead of changing behaviors. To me, every single one tastes terrible. But worst, they send a confusing signal to your gut because the taste of sweetness naturally corresponds to easy calories, but when they don't arrive, you don't get satiated. This dovetails with the rationalization, significantly contributing to the obesity epidemic. Free lunch what?

consteval 2y ago
Claiming zero-calorie sweeteners, which by definition cannot contribute to weight gain as it's impossible, are "contributing to obesity" is a BOLD claim. I'm talking science-shattering hundreds of studies disproving bold. Listen, you can't just make things up. Just because you feel as though something is too good to be true doesn't mean it actually is. This is like those people who think Ozempic makes your eyes melt and stuff. The problem is in capitalistic society "pain is gain" is ingrained since you left the womb. People often have trouble conceptualizing that you can get good results without suffering. People actually ENJOY the suffering because they think it directly translates into good stuff for them and their life. It's not a healthy, or rationale, way to operate. Ensuring your own misery out of a desperate need to prove yourself and your work ethic is just self-destructive behavior. Sorry to be the one to tell you.
lotsofpulp 2y ago
Are you sure your claim is true? I drink a 12oz low calorie sweetener soda maybe once a week, and use low calorie sweetened chocolate chips (Bake Believe, uses erythritol) for things like cookies or pancakes (also eaten only once in a while). I eat no more than I otherwise would, and I avoid the spike in blood glucose. I see a lot of negative claims around low calorie sweeteners, but no proof. However, I see irrefutable proof of negative effects of sucrose and glucose and fructose most times I am in public, and in the diabetes and obesity statistics. And I also have read credibly reports about the sugar industry corrupted research to avoid being in the crosshairs. As a result, I would not put it past them to try to vilify low calorie sweeteners either. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2548255 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullar... Obviously, excess low calorie sweeteners is bad, just like everything else in excess. But the question is, is a low calorie sweetener soda nutritionally better than a sugar soda, or low calorie sweetener candy/popsicle/etc better than the sugar alternative. So far, I would say the answer is an obvious yes, given what we know about the effects of excess simple carbohydrate consumption.

by klyrs 2y ago

consteval 2y ago

Claiming zero-calorie sweeteners, which by definition cannot contribute to weight gain as it's impossible, are "contributing to obesity" is a BOLD claim. I'm talking science-shattering hundreds of studies disproving bold. Listen, you can't just make things up. Just because you feel as though something is too good to be true doesn't mean it actually is. This is like those people who think Ozempic makes your eyes melt and stuff. The problem is in capitalistic society "pain is gain" is ingrained since you left the womb. People often have trouble conceptualizing that you can get good results without suffering. People actually ENJOY the suffering because they think it directly translates into good stuff for them and their life. It's not a healthy, or rationale, way to operate. Ensuring your own misery out of a desperate need to prove yourself and your work ethic is just self-destructive behavior. Sorry to be the one to tell you.

lotsofpulp 2y ago

Are you sure your claim is true? I drink a 12oz low calorie sweetener soda maybe once a week, and use low calorie sweetened chocolate chips (Bake Believe, uses erythritol) for things like cookies or pancakes (also eaten only once in a while). I eat no more than I otherwise would, and I avoid the spike in blood glucose. I see a lot of negative claims around low calorie sweeteners, but no proof. However, I see irrefutable proof of negative effects of sucrose and glucose and fructose most times I am in public, and in the diabetes and obesity statistics. And I also have read credibly reports about the sugar industry corrupted research to avoid being in the crosshairs. As a result, I would not put it past them to try to vilify low calorie sweeteners either. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2548255 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullar... Obviously, excess low calorie sweeteners is bad, just like everything else in excess. But the question is, is a low calorie sweetener soda nutritionally better than a sugar soda, or low calorie sweetener candy/popsicle/etc better than the sugar alternative. So far, I would say the answer is an obvious yes, given what we know about the effects of excess simple carbohydrate consumption.