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Better yet, had it been developed as a web app they would be beholden to nobody, and it would have been cross platform. From the demonstration video, I see noth

Better yet, had it been developed as a web app they would be beholden to nobody, and it would have been cross platform. From the demonstration video, I see nothing in the app that wouldn't be easy to duplicate using web technologies. Perhaps cases like these will encourage more people to use the web as their main mobile development platform.

bitwize 14y ago
Yeah, that's just what I want: my ability to FUCKING SPEAK being dependent on the quality of my cellphone or Comcrap connection. You know what? No. The web is not a computer, it is not a computing platform, it's not magical app juice that makes things native application developers have to worry about just go away. It's great at some things and remarkably, profoundly shitty at others. Quit trying to sell the snake oil that the cloud is the future of computing, and we can bin our CPUs, storage, and native code. It's not happening.
- cageface 14y ago
  Google HTML5 cache manifests and then delete this silly rant.
  - JoeCortopassi 14y ago
    HTML5 caching has a very limited file size
  - bitwize 14y ago
    Cache manifests are not guaranteed to provide much storage space and are not guaranteed to provide even permanent storage. They are not adequate to provide a full-fledged application in the absence of a network connection. Now delete this silly retort.
- marknutter 14y ago
  So you want your ability to FUCKING SPEAK to be dependent on whether or not Apple will randomly yank your app from the store?
  - bitwize 14y ago
    I never said that. You're providing a false dichotomy. What I want is an open source version of Speak for Yourself and the people who assert patent rights over this sort of software to go fuck themselves. That would be the best thing for kids like Maya.
    - marknutter 14y ago
      Well we're in agreement about wanting it to be open source and wanting the patent holders to fuck themselves, but you're wrong about this not being possible as an HTML5 app with offline access.

bitwize 14y ago

Yeah, that's just what I want: my ability to FUCKING SPEAK being dependent on the quality of my cellphone or Comcrap connection. You know what? No. The web is not a computer, it is not a computing platform, it's not magical app juice that makes things native application developers have to worry about just go away. It's great at some things and remarkably, profoundly shitty at others. Quit trying to sell the snake oil that the cloud is the future of computing, and we can bin our CPUs, storage, and native code. It's not happening.

cageface 14y ago
Google HTML5 cache manifests and then delete this silly rant.
- JoeCortopassi 14y ago
  HTML5 caching has a very limited file size
- bitwize 14y ago
  Cache manifests are not guaranteed to provide much storage space and are not guaranteed to provide even permanent storage. They are not adequate to provide a full-fledged application in the absence of a network connection. Now delete this silly retort.
marknutter 14y ago
So you want your ability to FUCKING SPEAK to be dependent on whether or not Apple will randomly yank your app from the store?
- bitwize 14y ago
  I never said that. You're providing a false dichotomy. What I want is an open source version of Speak for Yourself and the people who assert patent rights over this sort of software to go fuck themselves. That would be the best thing for kids like Maya.
  - marknutter 14y ago
    Well we're in agreement about wanting it to be open source and wanting the patent holders to fuck themselves, but you're wrong about this not being possible as an HTML5 app with offline access.