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There have been many safety features added since 2003. Things like electronic stability control (not available on Toyota models until 2004), automatic emergenc

by floxy 2y ago

There have been many safety features added since 2003. Things like electronic stability control (not available on Toyota models until 2004), automatic emergency braking, backup/parking sensors, lane monitoring/departure warnings, cross traffic alert/braking, more air bags, better structural / crush zones, backup / 360° cameras, etc.. Someone could think those were enough all by itself to upgrade. https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/what-makes-cars-safer-right-now-a5313968069/ https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/what-makes-c... Anyway, I'm surprised that a used one or two year old Subaru Solterra EV with less than 10,000 miles costs less than $25,000. https://my.caredge.com/buy?radius=7000&rows=20&zip=97256&make=Subaru&inventoryType=used&model=Solterra&sortBy=dist&sortOrder=asc&start=0 https://my.caredge.com/buy?radius=7000&rows=20&zip=97256&mak...

tonyarkles 2y ago
> Someone could think those were enough all by itself to upgrade Someone could, yeah. I think you'd have a hard time convincing her to spend that $25k for those things, especially given that the Solterra has half the cargo capacity compared to the '03 RAV4 (30 cu.ft. vs. 68 cu.ft.). There's interesting things all over with this. I've got a 2016 Tacoma and absolutely rely on the backup camera every time I back up because the rearward visibility is terrible. When I drive her RAV4... it's not necessary at all because the vehicle itself has amazing visibility. The other thing to take into account... what are the odds that the Solterra is going to make it to 2045 without requiring significant/expensive maintenance? She's had the RAV4 for around 4 years now and so far all we've had to do are brake pads and oil changes.
- floxy 2y ago
  From the Subaru website: > Maximum cargo volume: 63.5 cubic feet ...I'm assuming that's with the seat folded down, and assuming the RAV4 cargo capacity is also with the seats down. https://www.subaru.com/vehicles/solterra/specs-trim.html https://www.subaru.com/vehicles/solterra/specs-trim.html >what are the odds that the Solterra is going to make it to 2045 without requiring significant/expensive maintenance? Unknown, but the Solterra is built by Toyota, FWIW. https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-real-reason-the-2023-subaru-solterra-is-built-in-a-toyota-factory/ https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-real-reason-the-2023-subaru...
  - tonyarkles 2y ago
    Huh! I wonder how the site I got that number from got the cargo capacity so wrong. Looks like the battery itself has a 100,000 mile/8 year warranty (whichever comes first) which is honestly longer than I expected. Well, we’ll see in 5-10 years when she’s ready to replace the RAV4. She had to drive 300km for work today which looks like it would have been right on the edge of the range of that unit. Would’ve been cheaper in an EV, but a significantly longer day since there’s no high-capacity charging infrastructure available on the shortest route to get there.

by floxy 2y ago

tonyarkles 2y ago

> Someone could think those were enough all by itself to upgrade Someone could, yeah. I think you'd have a hard time convincing her to spend that $25k for those things, especially given that the Solterra has half the cargo capacity compared to the '03 RAV4 (30 cu.ft. vs. 68 cu.ft.). There's interesting things all over with this. I've got a 2016 Tacoma and absolutely rely on the backup camera every time I back up because the rearward visibility is terrible. When I drive her RAV4... it's not necessary at all because the vehicle itself has amazing visibility. The other thing to take into account... what are the odds that the Solterra is going to make it to 2045 without requiring significant/expensive maintenance? She's had the RAV4 for around 4 years now and so far all we've had to do are brake pads and oil changes.

floxy 2y ago
From the Subaru website: > Maximum cargo volume: 63.5 cubic feet ...I'm assuming that's with the seat folded down, and assuming the RAV4 cargo capacity is also with the seats down. https://www.subaru.com/vehicles/solterra/specs-trim.html https://www.subaru.com/vehicles/solterra/specs-trim.html >what are the odds that the Solterra is going to make it to 2045 without requiring significant/expensive maintenance? Unknown, but the Solterra is built by Toyota, FWIW. https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-real-reason-the-2023-subaru-solterra-is-built-in-a-toyota-factory/ https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-real-reason-the-2023-subaru...
- tonyarkles 2y ago
  Huh! I wonder how the site I got that number from got the cargo capacity so wrong. Looks like the battery itself has a 100,000 mile/8 year warranty (whichever comes first) which is honestly longer than I expected. Well, we’ll see in 5-10 years when she’s ready to replace the RAV4. She had to drive 300km for work today which looks like it would have been right on the edge of the range of that unit. Would’ve been cheaper in an EV, but a significantly longer day since there’s no high-capacity charging infrastructure available on the shortest route to get there.