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Absolutely, but you end up in weird situations such as with two-lane roads, car in the right lane stops and waits but its not obvious if the incoming car in the
by 015a 2y ago
Absolutely, but you end up in weird situations such as with two-lane roads, car in the right lane stops and waits but its not obvious if the incoming car in the left lane will stop, so you can't start walking; or once you make it to the middle (generally with a pedestrian island) having to re-calculate incoming traffic exiting the roundabout, sometimes they'll stop in the dead center of the roundabout and wait for you to cross which is dangerous and idiotic but people do it because they think they're doing a nice thing.
Additionally, you're dealing with the effects that I outlined earlier in the paragraph, but at every single intersection; oftentimes, and especially at intersections where one direction of travel (say North-South) is significantly more popular than the other (e.g. West-East), traffic basically never stops because there's little crossing-traffic to stop drivers from entering the intersection for even a second; and drivers are not required to yield to pedestrians. You start forming prejudices against car brands real quick walking around cities like these ("ope, BMW, no way he'll let me go").
My shadow theory is: people overwhelmingly associate roundabouts as being better for pedestrians because of an unrelated knock-on effect: Cities which invest in roundabouts generally have more money than cities who don't, and cities which have more money are also likely to independently invest in dedicated pedestrian infrastructure, like dividers and rail trails. Roundabouts might be safer for pedestrians, because I'd guess that many pedestrian deaths are the result of cars running red lights, and that's just physically more difficult to do with a roundabout; that's only one component of "better" though, and even then I struggle to find a better data-backed source for that intuition than "some academic or city planner said they're safer for pedestrians".
- yencabulator 2y ago> Absolutely, but you end up in weird situations such as with two-lane roads, car in the right lane stops and waits but its not obvious if the incoming car in the left lane will stop, Where I grew up, if a car is stopped in front of a pedestrian crossing, not stopping next to it gets you a pretty hefty fine. Every few years the police have a big public service announcement campaign about it, then focus on giving fines for it in some of the more risky locations. Roundabouts are better when they are not the multi-lane monsters US tends to build.