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As an aside to changing your wording so slightly, everyone with two fingers of forehead will very quickly determine that whenever you say "this sucks" it's your

As an aside to changing your wording so slightly, everyone with two fingers of forehead will very quickly determine that whenever you say "this sucks" it's your biased personal opinion. Maybe such a strong statement from you will cause some people not to mention that they actually like X but, functionally, they will just ignore your opinion on this topic and move on.

kerkeslager 2y ago
If someone goes out of their way to say Nickelback sucks, sure, obviously that's their biased personal opinion. But the bias that leads to saying Nickelback sucks is going to show up in all sorts of other areas and cause much worse problems. If you hate Nickelback because it's popular to hate Nickelback, I have to wonder what other things do you hate because it's popular to hate them?
- monksy 2y ago
  (cause much worse problems) Like what, making Chad Kuger make more IG reels where he's annoyed by still touring and people who don't go shitting on the band?
  - kerkeslager 2y ago
    No, like hating a child[1]. Or like hating furries. Or trans people. Or black people. Or any other people it's popular to hate, even though there's no good reason to hate them. And that's setting aside more nuanced discussions which you've already demonstrated yourself incapable of having, because your hatred is more important to you than basic reasoning. One effect of your Nickelback hate which affects you personally, is that whenever Nickelback comes up, you make yourself less likeable than Nickelback to most listeners whenever you talk about them. I think less of you for holding this opinion, and I'm not the only one. Your hatred is indefensible. Why even form an opinion on this? It literally only makes things worse for everyone, especially for you. I mean, I don't particularly care for Nickelback myself, so I do what any sane person does when they don't care for a band: I don't think about them. I probably haven't thought of Nickelback in 5 years before this conversation. Right now I'm actually a little curious and might go listen to them since I literally don't remember what they sound like. [1] Remember Rebecca Black?
    - harimau777 2y ago
      I think it's a stretch to go from "someone hates Nickelback" to "therefore they probably are transphobic or racist". Especially since "hate" in this instance is an exaggeration used for effect. It's highly unlikely that their "hatred" of Nickelback has any meaningful similarity to a racist's hatred of black people.
      - kerkeslager 2y ago
        I'm not saying that everyone who hates Nickelback is a racist or transphobic. I'm saying that the same thinking (or lack thereof) which causes people to pile onto hating Nickelback is the one that causes people to be racist or transphobic. Not thinking for yourself means that you'll hate what the people around you hate. If the people around you are left-leaning, you probably won't hate black or trans people. But, there's definitely some irrational hate going around in left-leaning communities. Probably the greatest correlation I'd point out is between hating Nickelback and hating Rebecca Black--because if you're getting your opinions on who to hate from internet culture, internet culture was going to tell you to hate both those people. And here's the problem: unlike Nickelback, when Rebecca Black started getting hated on the internet she was 14. Blogs and news sources written by adults were piling onto hating a child. Anyone with a shred of empathy who thought for themselves at all, imagined what it was like to be Rebecca Black in 2011 and was horrified by people's behavior.

kerkeslager 2y ago

If someone goes out of their way to say Nickelback sucks, sure, obviously that's their biased personal opinion. But the bias that leads to saying Nickelback sucks is going to show up in all sorts of other areas and cause much worse problems. If you hate Nickelback because it's popular to hate Nickelback, I have to wonder what other things do you hate because it's popular to hate them?

monksy 2y ago
(cause much worse problems) Like what, making Chad Kuger make more IG reels where he's annoyed by still touring and people who don't go shitting on the band?
- kerkeslager 2y ago
  No, like hating a child[1]. Or like hating furries. Or trans people. Or black people. Or any other people it's popular to hate, even though there's no good reason to hate them. And that's setting aside more nuanced discussions which you've already demonstrated yourself incapable of having, because your hatred is more important to you than basic reasoning. One effect of your Nickelback hate which affects you personally, is that whenever Nickelback comes up, you make yourself less likeable than Nickelback to most listeners whenever you talk about them. I think less of you for holding this opinion, and I'm not the only one. Your hatred is indefensible. Why even form an opinion on this? It literally only makes things worse for everyone, especially for you. I mean, I don't particularly care for Nickelback myself, so I do what any sane person does when they don't care for a band: I don't think about them. I probably haven't thought of Nickelback in 5 years before this conversation. Right now I'm actually a little curious and might go listen to them since I literally don't remember what they sound like. [1] Remember Rebecca Black?
  - harimau777 2y ago
    I think it's a stretch to go from "someone hates Nickelback" to "therefore they probably are transphobic or racist". Especially since "hate" in this instance is an exaggeration used for effect. It's highly unlikely that their "hatred" of Nickelback has any meaningful similarity to a racist's hatred of black people.
    - kerkeslager 2y ago
      I'm not saying that everyone who hates Nickelback is a racist or transphobic. I'm saying that the same thinking (or lack thereof) which causes people to pile onto hating Nickelback is the one that causes people to be racist or transphobic. Not thinking for yourself means that you'll hate what the people around you hate. If the people around you are left-leaning, you probably won't hate black or trans people. But, there's definitely some irrational hate going around in left-leaning communities. Probably the greatest correlation I'd point out is between hating Nickelback and hating Rebecca Black--because if you're getting your opinions on who to hate from internet culture, internet culture was going to tell you to hate both those people. And here's the problem: unlike Nickelback, when Rebecca Black started getting hated on the internet she was 14. Blogs and news sources written by adults were piling onto hating a child. Anyone with a shred of empathy who thought for themselves at all, imagined what it was like to be Rebecca Black in 2011 and was horrified by people's behavior.