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I love their work. I’ve also been working on some video to teach people how to publish their own book (the first of which I’ll make available free when it’s rea

I love their work. I’ve also been working on some video to teach people how to publish their own book (the first of which I’ll make available free when it’s ready). Anyway, I’d like to NOT embed YouTube. Maybe I will anyway, but I wonder if anyone has alternatives, especially if they are scrappy, tiny alternatives like those that I imagine 100r might produce. I’m considering MP4 or WebM in HTML and wilder ideas like an audio file and a few images that are started at the same time with JS.

amy-petrik-214 2y ago
You should check out my book then. I realized that everyone was starting to, not write books, but that they were writing instructional books teaching about how people should write books. I said to myself, "well let's teach them how to do THAT instead". One step more metain the game. Anyway, my book is about how to make videos to teach people how to write books, things like marketing and profit-maxxing. There's a lot of great pedagogy in there. Also what kind of name is "100 rabbits". Reminscent of "50 blessing" from hotline miami
Vegenoid 2y ago
The simplest thing would be to simply link to a Youtube video, perhaps with a small warning that it will take them to Youtube which uses trackers. You could even make the link an image that is the thumbnail of the video. Not the prettiest or purest solution, but very simple.
- lloeki 2y ago
  I've seen youtube embeds be overlaid and say things like "this embed carries tracking, click here to load inline at your own peril or here to watch on original site" or something to that effect. Can't recall where though.
  - twojacobtwo 2y ago
    I believe duckduckgo offers a similar warning when playing videos from search results.
    - captn3m0 2y ago
      It also uses YouTube-nocookie.com, which turns off targeted advertising or tracking. You are still tracked, but views aren’t linked or ads aren’t linked to your account. YouTube docs call Privacy Enhanced Mode for Embeds. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/171780?hl=en#zippy=%2Cturn-on-privacy-enhanced-mode https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/171780?hl=en#zippy...
  - jeroenhd 2y ago
    Medium did (does?) this when you have DNT enabled. Several GDPR-compliant sites do the same, though many use their embeds as a means to track people into clicking the "accept all tracking" button.
  - dwighttk 2y ago
    Duck duck go?
- networked 2y ago
  What I do (first of all for performance) is use YouTube links and have a script that prepends each `a.embed` link with an "embed" button. The button turns the link into an embed and back. https://dbohdan.com/assets/embed.js https://dbohdan.com/assets/embed.js
  - Bluestein 2y ago
    Neat solution.-
- fmbb 2y ago
  I disagree. That is the prettiest and the purest solution!
  - hk__2 2y ago
    The "purest" solution would be to host the video yourself.
Swizec 2y ago
> Anyway, I’d like to NOT embed YouTube. Maybe I will anyway, but I wonder if anyone has alternatives, especially if they are scrappy, tiny alternatives like those that I imagine 100r might produce. I use lite-youtube on my site for this reason. Instead of embedding the YT player directly, it shows a thumbnail that pulls in the embed when you click to watch the video. That way visitors aren't tracked unless they actively click the thumbnail to watch the embedded player. Iirc it also works as just a link so visitors have the option to cmd+click or right-click-copy to avoid the embed.
throwup238 2y ago
Turn your videos into HLS playlists (.m3u8) or mp4 and host the individual video files behind Cloudflare. Serve them on the frontend using JW Player or some other JS video player and from the backend using a $5 DigitalOcean droplet that serves the files from block storage. You’ll have to learn some ffmpeg incantations but the bandwidth will be free and your total costs will be the tiny VM and block storage. Might even be able to point Cloudflare at a public bucket and skip the VM. If you need to store and serve several terabytes of content, a dedicated server instead of block storage will be your best bet (again with Cloudflare), you’ll just need to figure out offsite backup and restoration.
- cortesoft 2y ago
  Doesn't cloudflare TOS forbid video content?
  - duskwuff 2y ago
    It's not quite that clearcut: > Unless you are an Enterprise customer, Cloudflare offers specific Paid Services (e.g., the Developer Platform, Images, and Stream) that you must use in order to serve video and other large files via the CDN. Cloudflare reserves the right to disable or limit your access to or use of the CDN, or to limit your End Users’ access to certain of your resources through the CDN, if you use or are suspected of using the CDN without such Paid Services to serve video or a disproportionate percentage of pictures, audio files, or other large files. - https://www.cloudflare.com/service-specific-terms-application-services/#content-delivery-network-terms https://www.cloudflare.com/service-specific-terms-applicatio... Reading between the lines a bit: they really only care if you're using Cloudflare to front a site whose primary purpose is to deliver video content, and lots of it (like, say, if you're running a tube site or a livestreaming site). They don't care about web sites which happen to incidentally include a small amount of video content.
  - throwup238 2y ago
    Huh, looks like it does unless you use Cloudflare Stream. Thankfully this is a throwaway account :-) I think by keeping the HLS segments at a few megabytes each and not using a file extension in the URL, I've slipped through the cracks. (My religion forbids me from recognizing any terms of service that haven't been given the three blessings of the matriarch)
jrvieira 2y ago
why wouldn't you host your own video file? I don't understand this dependency on youtube
- codazoda 2y ago
  This is what I ended up doing. I used HandBrake to reduce the video to a reasonable size and then just put the MP4 on the site like anything else. I guess I'm getting a little carried away with my "minimalist" attitude in this case, where I want the video to be super light. Looks like a 2 minute video is about 4mb. Not great but not that bad compared to other modern websites either. This will work for now but my mind still wonders if there isn't a better way to reduce the size of these. I'll continue to experiment.
- saulpw 2y ago
  Streaming is important, especially for longer videos. I don't believe any static hosting site supports video streaming.
  - detourdog 2y ago
    Right but if you have your own ip address and fiber connection that should be enough for narrow-casting. I'm surprised to see my inexpressible urges documented by others. I'm with these people 100% right down to why a sailboat. I tried to do this with an apartment building. The building is too large to focus on a the detail I need. A 43' sailboat is actually a great size to prototype on. I have a signed P&S and hope to be hard core boat living sometime in September. The idea will be the studio time I get while on land will be much sweeter if I spend a lot of time on a boat. The boat is self-contained so my aspirations won't effect people paying rent. The building has everything I need to host my own streaming. I don't know that I will ever publish content, but if I do it will be entirely self-hosted. If the audience is so vast that brings everything to a halt, things will start functioning again once the hordes get bored. Think of all the wasted brain power content-creators go through to keep YouTube at bay. I believe content should be the residue of the work. I think once publishing is the funding source it may distort the work.
  - littlestymaar 2y ago
theendisney4 2y ago
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- shermantanktop 2y ago
  Not everyone wants to be a man, you know.
  - theendisney4 2y ago
    I find it hilarious how despite endless bad press the giant data pump that is bittorrent just keeps on grinding without anyone behind the wheel, no updates, no bug fixes, and no interruption. People can scream, ball their fists and stomp their foot on the ground but daddy's money cant shut it down. We should all feel very embarresed such a thing is possible. You can apparently write software and/or create protocols that measure their success in moaning about revenue loss.
    - sulandor 2y ago
      maybe because bittorrent is genuinely useful and far from abandoned as most shops that regularly distribute large blobs use it. the political kerfuffle because drm/dmca really has nothing to do with it but i can't shake the feeling that you are involved at this level. god bless
      - theendisney4 2y ago
        It has something to do with it. The internet enables control over what you talk about and share even with those close to you. We seem to like controlling others where we can. It doesnt seem al that bad but our benevolent corporate overlord dont represent the true madness of our kind. They havent categorized an untermensh nor refer to people as animals, we get to complaint about and mock our leaders. We have an elaborate system of law. One day people will no doubt wake up and it is all gone or it will gradually errode away. Laws that require changing our entire civilisation and culture are not your friend. You dont want to search everones house to check if they own a radio or tv. If that happens depends on who is asking. It isnt a static group. It might begin with heroic crime fighters but we can expand or replace the effort with new business logic. First we need to prevent you from reading a harry potter registered in someone elses name, then we need to be able to take your music purchases away from you until eventually we need to lock you up for subscribing to the wrong youtube channel 30 years ago. It isnt actually as absurd as not having video on websites in an afordable way. All those people working at youtube and all of those giant servers. It takes a truly monumental effort to use the wrong technology. I have to watch ads to pay for it? Advertisers have to influence content to pay for it? Our best men to keep the eyeballs on ads to pay for it? I have over a thousand yt subs to deleted channels for a laundry list of resons. There use to be threaded discussions and video replies. It all had to go to pay for it? All the horrors of central planning without the nice things the communists prommised us? All that to make sure some people get paid for things other people did 70 years ago? If that is what it costs they should not be paid. I hope little jimmy downloads all of their movies, every tv show, all the video games, all of their music, all of their books and all of their published papers. They wanted little jimmy to pay for singing happy birthday on video. Imagine the money they lost that day. All of those birthdays! We could have had birthday inspection squad teams. Fight the crime at the source.

amy-petrik-214 2y ago

You should check out my book then. I realized that everyone was starting to, not write books, but that they were writing instructional books teaching about how people should write books. I said to myself, "well let's teach them how to do THAT instead". One step more metain the game. Anyway, my book is about how to make videos to teach people how to write books, things like marketing and profit-maxxing. There's a lot of great pedagogy in there. Also what kind of name is "100 rabbits". Reminscent of "50 blessing" from hotline miami

Vegenoid 2y ago

The simplest thing would be to simply link to a Youtube video, perhaps with a small warning that it will take them to Youtube which uses trackers. You could even make the link an image that is the thumbnail of the video. Not the prettiest or purest solution, but very simple.

lloeki 2y ago
I've seen youtube embeds be overlaid and say things like "this embed carries tracking, click here to load inline at your own peril or here to watch on original site" or something to that effect. Can't recall where though.
- twojacobtwo 2y ago
  I believe duckduckgo offers a similar warning when playing videos from search results.
  - captn3m0 2y ago
    It also uses YouTube-nocookie.com, which turns off targeted advertising or tracking. You are still tracked, but views aren’t linked or ads aren’t linked to your account. YouTube docs call Privacy Enhanced Mode for Embeds. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/171780?hl=en#zippy=%2Cturn-on-privacy-enhanced-mode https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/171780?hl=en#zippy...
- jeroenhd 2y ago
  Medium did (does?) this when you have DNT enabled. Several GDPR-compliant sites do the same, though many use their embeds as a means to track people into clicking the "accept all tracking" button.
- dwighttk 2y ago
  Duck duck go?
networked 2y ago
What I do (first of all for performance) is use YouTube links and have a script that prepends each `a.embed` link with an "embed" button. The button turns the link into an embed and back. https://dbohdan.com/assets/embed.js https://dbohdan.com/assets/embed.js
- Bluestein 2y ago
  Neat solution.-
fmbb 2y ago
I disagree. That is the prettiest and the purest solution!
- hk__2 2y ago
  The "purest" solution would be to host the video yourself.

Swizec 2y ago

> Anyway, I’d like to NOT embed YouTube. Maybe I will anyway, but I wonder if anyone has alternatives, especially if they are scrappy, tiny alternatives like those that I imagine 100r might produce. I use lite-youtube on my site for this reason. Instead of embedding the YT player directly, it shows a thumbnail that pulls in the embed when you click to watch the video. That way visitors aren't tracked unless they actively click the thumbnail to watch the embedded player. Iirc it also works as just a link so visitors have the option to cmd+click or right-click-copy to avoid the embed.

throwup238 2y ago

Turn your videos into HLS playlists (.m3u8) or mp4 and host the individual video files behind Cloudflare. Serve them on the frontend using JW Player or some other JS video player and from the backend using a $5 DigitalOcean droplet that serves the files from block storage. You’ll have to learn some ffmpeg incantations but the bandwidth will be free and your total costs will be the tiny VM and block storage. Might even be able to point Cloudflare at a public bucket and skip the VM. If you need to store and serve several terabytes of content, a dedicated server instead of block storage will be your best bet (again with Cloudflare), you’ll just need to figure out offsite backup and restoration.

cortesoft 2y ago
Doesn't cloudflare TOS forbid video content?
- duskwuff 2y ago
  It's not quite that clearcut: > Unless you are an Enterprise customer, Cloudflare offers specific Paid Services (e.g., the Developer Platform, Images, and Stream) that you must use in order to serve video and other large files via the CDN. Cloudflare reserves the right to disable or limit your access to or use of the CDN, or to limit your End Users’ access to certain of your resources through the CDN, if you use or are suspected of using the CDN without such Paid Services to serve video or a disproportionate percentage of pictures, audio files, or other large files. - https://www.cloudflare.com/service-specific-terms-application-services/#content-delivery-network-terms https://www.cloudflare.com/service-specific-terms-applicatio... Reading between the lines a bit: they really only care if you're using Cloudflare to front a site whose primary purpose is to deliver video content, and lots of it (like, say, if you're running a tube site or a livestreaming site). They don't care about web sites which happen to incidentally include a small amount of video content.
- throwup238 2y ago
  Huh, looks like it does unless you use Cloudflare Stream. Thankfully this is a throwaway account :-) I think by keeping the HLS segments at a few megabytes each and not using a file extension in the URL, I've slipped through the cracks. (My religion forbids me from recognizing any terms of service that haven't been given the three blessings of the matriarch)

jrvieira 2y ago

why wouldn't you host your own video file? I don't understand this dependency on youtube

codazoda 2y ago
This is what I ended up doing. I used HandBrake to reduce the video to a reasonable size and then just put the MP4 on the site like anything else. I guess I'm getting a little carried away with my "minimalist" attitude in this case, where I want the video to be super light. Looks like a 2 minute video is about 4mb. Not great but not that bad compared to other modern websites either. This will work for now but my mind still wonders if there isn't a better way to reduce the size of these. I'll continue to experiment.
saulpw 2y ago
Streaming is important, especially for longer videos. I don't believe any static hosting site supports video streaming.
- detourdog 2y ago
  Right but if you have your own ip address and fiber connection that should be enough for narrow-casting. I'm surprised to see my inexpressible urges documented by others. I'm with these people 100% right down to why a sailboat. I tried to do this with an apartment building. The building is too large to focus on a the detail I need. A 43' sailboat is actually a great size to prototype on. I have a signed P&S and hope to be hard core boat living sometime in September. The idea will be the studio time I get while on land will be much sweeter if I spend a lot of time on a boat. The boat is self-contained so my aspirations won't effect people paying rent. The building has everything I need to host my own streaming. I don't know that I will ever publish content, but if I do it will be entirely self-hosted. If the audience is so vast that brings everything to a halt, things will start functioning again once the hordes get bored. Think of all the wasted brain power content-creators go through to keep YouTube at bay. I believe content should be the residue of the work. I think once publishing is the funding source it may distort the work.
- littlestymaar 2y ago

theendisney4 2y ago

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shermantanktop 2y ago
Not everyone wants to be a man, you know.
- theendisney4 2y ago
  I find it hilarious how despite endless bad press the giant data pump that is bittorrent just keeps on grinding without anyone behind the wheel, no updates, no bug fixes, and no interruption. People can scream, ball their fists and stomp their foot on the ground but daddy's money cant shut it down. We should all feel very embarresed such a thing is possible. You can apparently write software and/or create protocols that measure their success in moaning about revenue loss.
  - sulandor 2y ago
    maybe because bittorrent is genuinely useful and far from abandoned as most shops that regularly distribute large blobs use it. the political kerfuffle because drm/dmca really has nothing to do with it but i can't shake the feeling that you are involved at this level. god bless
    - theendisney4 2y ago
      It has something to do with it. The internet enables control over what you talk about and share even with those close to you. We seem to like controlling others where we can. It doesnt seem al that bad but our benevolent corporate overlord dont represent the true madness of our kind. They havent categorized an untermensh nor refer to people as animals, we get to complaint about and mock our leaders. We have an elaborate system of law. One day people will no doubt wake up and it is all gone or it will gradually errode away. Laws that require changing our entire civilisation and culture are not your friend. You dont want to search everones house to check if they own a radio or tv. If that happens depends on who is asking. It isnt a static group. It might begin with heroic crime fighters but we can expand or replace the effort with new business logic. First we need to prevent you from reading a harry potter registered in someone elses name, then we need to be able to take your music purchases away from you until eventually we need to lock you up for subscribing to the wrong youtube channel 30 years ago. It isnt actually as absurd as not having video on websites in an afordable way. All those people working at youtube and all of those giant servers. It takes a truly monumental effort to use the wrong technology. I have to watch ads to pay for it? Advertisers have to influence content to pay for it? Our best men to keep the eyeballs on ads to pay for it? I have over a thousand yt subs to deleted channels for a laundry list of resons. There use to be threaded discussions and video replies. It all had to go to pay for it? All the horrors of central planning without the nice things the communists prommised us? All that to make sure some people get paid for things other people did 70 years ago? If that is what it costs they should not be paid. I hope little jimmy downloads all of their movies, every tv show, all the video games, all of their music, all of their books and all of their published papers. They wanted little jimmy to pay for singing happy birthday on video. Imagine the money they lost that day. All of those birthdays! We could have had birthday inspection squad teams. Fight the crime at the source.