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And my 2020 MacBook Air, 2018 MacBook Pro, 2010 iMac, 2008 MacBook Pro all still work fine.

amlib 2y ago
But you can't add a modern gpu to an old iMac and still enjoy the latest (and not so "latest") games, nor install a modern wi-fi card on an old macbook and enjoy fast wireless, among many other small upgrades you can do to keep windows/linux computers kicking.
- exe34 2y ago
  i don't play video games. the WiFi works as fast as my router is able to handle, I have no need for anything faster. do windows people really upgrade hardware every other month like this? what do you do with all the e-waste?
  - amlib 2y ago
    I'm talking about extending the life of a >5 year old machine, not upgrading it every few months. It's pretty common for people to have a, let's say, 10 year old notebook with wifi 4 which could be greatly improved by adding wifi 5 or 6 capability. On a congested place with lots of neighbouring wireless networks where the 2.4ghz band is exhausted all the time your wi-fi could go from 5mbps to 500mbps, it's a BIG deal. Obviously the ability to do that on windows/linux notebooks isn't guaranteed, but it sure as hell is much more common than macbooks.
    - exe34 2y ago
      oh is that 5ghz? I've had that since 2012, before I even had a router that could handle it. I don't think there's much better? anyway, I've never had any issues with the WiFi, I don't see why I'd want to replace it.
    - cassianoleal 2y ago
      Why did you buy a new laptop without 5GHz WiFi in 2019?
- mikestew 2y ago
  nor install a modern wi-fi card on an old MacBook Your point is taken, but I put a new WiFi card in a 2012 MBP so I could use Airdrop and other newer features that required 802.11ac.
- windowsrookie 2y ago
  Actually you can add a modern GPU to the old iMacs, they use an MXM GPU. I have upgraded my 2010 iMac to a 2012-era GPU from a Dell laptop to get metal support. I have also upgraded the CPU, Wifi card, and added 32GB of RAM to this 2010 iMac.
dunham 2y ago
Yeah, my kid is happily using my old 2012 iMac. (I did replace the hard drive with a SSD). I've also got a 2017 Macbook pro that nobody is using at the moment, but they're happy with the iMac.
bsder 2y ago
I'm not saying I don't believe you ... But every single Apple laptop I have owned has required a battery replacement because the LiPol puffed up after 4 years or so. For some reason, I have not had the same battery problems with my Lenovo X1 Carbons.
- windowsrookie 2y ago
  Apple replaced the battery in my 2018 MacBook Pro under AppleCare. The 2008 MacBook Pro has removable batteries and I have several of them that still last 3+ hours.
xtiansimon 2y ago
2013 MBA, 2014 MM are still working and doing useful things in my home network

But you can't add a modern gpu to an old iMac and still enjoy the latest (and not so "latest") games, nor install a modern wi-fi card on an old macbook and enjoy fast wireless, among many other small upgrades you can do to keep windows/linux computers kicking.

exe34 2y ago
i don't play video games. the WiFi works as fast as my router is able to handle, I have no need for anything faster. do windows people really upgrade hardware every other month like this? what do you do with all the e-waste?
- amlib 2y ago
  I'm talking about extending the life of a >5 year old machine, not upgrading it every few months. It's pretty common for people to have a, let's say, 10 year old notebook with wifi 4 which could be greatly improved by adding wifi 5 or 6 capability. On a congested place with lots of neighbouring wireless networks where the 2.4ghz band is exhausted all the time your wi-fi could go from 5mbps to 500mbps, it's a BIG deal. Obviously the ability to do that on windows/linux notebooks isn't guaranteed, but it sure as hell is much more common than macbooks.
  - exe34 2y ago
    oh is that 5ghz? I've had that since 2012, before I even had a router that could handle it. I don't think there's much better? anyway, I've never had any issues with the WiFi, I don't see why I'd want to replace it.
  - cassianoleal 2y ago
    Why did you buy a new laptop without 5GHz WiFi in 2019?
mikestew 2y ago
nor install a modern wi-fi card on an old MacBook Your point is taken, but I put a new WiFi card in a 2012 MBP so I could use Airdrop and other newer features that required 802.11ac.
windowsrookie 2y ago
Actually you can add a modern GPU to the old iMacs, they use an MXM GPU. I have upgraded my 2010 iMac to a 2012-era GPU from a Dell laptop to get metal support. I have also upgraded the CPU, Wifi card, and added 32GB of RAM to this 2010 iMac.

dunham 2y ago

Yeah, my kid is happily using my old 2012 iMac. (I did replace the hard drive with a SSD). I've also got a 2017 Macbook pro that nobody is using at the moment, but they're happy with the iMac.

bsder 2y ago

I'm not saying I don't believe you ... But every single Apple laptop I have owned has required a battery replacement because the LiPol puffed up after 4 years or so. For some reason, I have not had the same battery problems with my Lenovo X1 Carbons.

windowsrookie 2y ago
Apple replaced the battery in my 2018 MacBook Pro under AppleCare. The 2008 MacBook Pro has removable batteries and I have several of them that still last 3+ hours.

xtiansimon 2y ago

2013 MBA, 2014 MM are still working and doing useful things in my home network