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> Sort of, I suppose If you want to have a good discussion, this, right here, IMO is the reason we have to make decisions "within a fucked up system" (as you p

by grecy 2y ago

> Sort of, I suppose If you want to have a good discussion, this, right here, IMO is the reason we have to make decisions "within a fucked up system" (as you put it). You are letting these companies push you around. You accepted the $0.25 "instant" fee at the ATM, and in fact said I would be an a-hole if I didn't and held other people up because of it. At that point you are a very big part of the problem, because you are not just allowing them to get away with it, you're actively encouraging it, and saying anyone who doesn't is actually the problem. Stand up for yourself. Stand up for others. Don't take the BS. Don't blame regular folks for what the big corporations are doing, make noise about the corporation is very obviously at fault here and they are the problem making our society worse. > I've repeatedly told you I don't like this policy But you clearly don't feel that way strongly, otherwise you wouldn't be saying I'm the bad guy for not paying the extra $0.25 (or $25) "instant" fee at the ATM and holding others up.

jjulius 2y ago
>You are letting these companies push you around. Not really. I pick my battles - there are places I fight back, and other places where I may opt not to pick a fight for the sake of convenience. But just because I'm willing to pay a fee within a system that currently exists doesn't mean that I haven't actively worked to elect politicians who have stated that they want to make these changes. There are plenty of other exorbitant fees that airlines charge that I have refused to pay and have worked around on my own, but sometimes I may bite the bullet for the sake of my own convenience while the politicians I supported work to put these proposed rules in place. And wouldn't you know it, this thread is literally about them doing that. Huh... >You accepted the $0.25 "instant" fee at the ATM, and in fact said I would be an a-hole if I didn't and held other people up because of it. My exact statement was, "No, but you are at fault if they give you the option for instant withdrawal for $0.25.". At no point have I called you an asshole. >... and saying anyone who doesn't is actually the problem. ... Don't blame regular folks... I truly do not understand how I can make what I have repeated about who's truly "at fault" here any clearer than I already have. Good gracious. >But you clearly don't feel that way strongly, otherwise you wouldn't be saying I'm the bad guy... Again, with the emotionally-charged rhetoric. Just because one is "at fault" doesn't make one "a bad guy" or an "a-hole". I've never insinuated that you would be a bad person for choosing that option, just like I've never said that OP is a bad person - again, I applauded them for being aware of the impact their decision causes while still being willing to take what they chose as the best path forward for them and their family. Causing people to wait ten minutes because you opted not to pay a fee doesn't make you a bad person - I'm not going to cast judgement because I don't know if the person at the ATM simply doesn't want to pay it, or can't afford it, or what. But that doesn't mean that they're not at fault for making people wait - and that's OK. Life's fairly nuanced, bud, and sometimes we have to make crappy decisions within a shitty system that we're currently working to fight. That's capitalism for ya, and it sucks. Again, I truly think that you need to go outside and get some fresh air. I'm an outdoorsman myself, and I've stumbled upon your content from time to time - maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to put HN down, hop in your Jeep and go for a drive?
- grecy 2y ago
  You’re right. Thanks & sorry. I just took a really long walk and feel better.
  - jjulius 2y ago
    I did the same, I noticed myself getting more frustrated over an internet debate than I should be haha. Though, it's incredibly more humid here than it usually is, and now I feel gross and kinda regret it LOL. Much love, bud. Hope you and yours enjoy the rest of your day. :)
    - grecy 2y ago
      Cheers, you too. Shockingly humid here too....

by grecy 2y ago

jjulius 2y ago

>You are letting these companies push you around. Not really. I pick my battles - there are places I fight back, and other places where I may opt not to pick a fight for the sake of convenience. But just because I'm willing to pay a fee within a system that currently exists doesn't mean that I haven't actively worked to elect politicians who have stated that they want to make these changes. There are plenty of other exorbitant fees that airlines charge that I have refused to pay and have worked around on my own, but sometimes I may bite the bullet for the sake of my own convenience while the politicians I supported work to put these proposed rules in place. And wouldn't you know it, this thread is literally about them doing that. Huh... >You accepted the $0.25 "instant" fee at the ATM, and in fact said I would be an a-hole if I didn't and held other people up because of it. My exact statement was, "No, but you are at fault if they give you the option for instant withdrawal for $0.25.". At no point have I called you an asshole. >... and saying anyone who doesn't is actually the problem. ... Don't blame regular folks... I truly do not understand how I can make what I have repeated about who's truly "at fault" here any clearer than I already have. Good gracious. >But you clearly don't feel that way strongly, otherwise you wouldn't be saying I'm the bad guy... Again, with the emotionally-charged rhetoric. Just because one is "at fault" doesn't make one "a bad guy" or an "a-hole". I've never insinuated that you would be a bad person for choosing that option, just like I've never said that OP is a bad person - again, I applauded them for being aware of the impact their decision causes while still being willing to take what they chose as the best path forward for them and their family. Causing people to wait ten minutes because you opted not to pay a fee doesn't make you a bad person - I'm not going to cast judgement because I don't know if the person at the ATM simply doesn't want to pay it, or can't afford it, or what. But that doesn't mean that they're not at fault for making people wait - and that's OK. Life's fairly nuanced, bud, and sometimes we have to make crappy decisions within a shitty system that we're currently working to fight. That's capitalism for ya, and it sucks. Again, I truly think that you need to go outside and get some fresh air. I'm an outdoorsman myself, and I've stumbled upon your content from time to time - maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to put HN down, hop in your Jeep and go for a drive?

grecy 2y ago
You’re right. Thanks & sorry. I just took a really long walk and feel better.
- jjulius 2y ago
  I did the same, I noticed myself getting more frustrated over an internet debate than I should be haha. Though, it's incredibly more humid here than it usually is, and now I feel gross and kinda regret it LOL. Much love, bud. Hope you and yours enjoy the rest of your day. :)
  - grecy 2y ago
    Cheers, you too. Shockingly humid here too....